deadstick
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Blanks and M193 rounds -- big difference.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article78197842.html
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/military/article78197842.html
Friendly fire at NTC
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Blackhawk
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We almost had a similar incident many years ago in my UH-60 Guard unit. We had some infantry that was to act as an OPFOR when we assaulted an LZ. Our clueless BN S-4 (supply officer), was issuing "blanks" when private Snuffy says, "Ummm, sir, you're issuing us real ammo." S-4 responds, "That's right private. Real blanks." Private Snuffy responds, "Umm, no sir. This is 5.56 ball ammunition." Exercise ended right then and there.
Look up clueless in a dictionary and there is a picture of this S-4. I was spotting for him once on a 9mm range and, when cleared hot, he hit the magazine release instead of the safety.
One year he ordered ammo for a range... But forgot to reserve the range. Next year he remembered to reserve the range. But forgot about the ammo.
Look up clueless in a dictionary and there is a picture of this S-4. I was spotting for him once on a 9mm range and, when cleared hot, he hit the magazine release instead of the safety.
One year he ordered ammo for a range... But forgot to reserve the range. Next year he remembered to reserve the range. But forgot about the ammo.
Lawman
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Cracked Windows, a couple generator fires, and conducted battle damage assessment on our aircraft that got shot.
Surprisingly not a lot of bad happened on the aviation side which was good since last rotation for the CAB we had a Hawk roll over during a dust landing with all crews safe.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
We heard about that roll over.
Our rotation, an OC died. Going to fast in a humvee, rolled over.
When the CG's goal was less than 200 safety "incidents" I was like, that's easy...
We had an E5 get 3 alone.
Lawman
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Yeah they were saying between the ground and air there is at least one class A/B per rotation. We didn't do it on our side this time but I don't know what happened with the ground guys.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
The Stryker Brigade we supported had an O3 get run over at Hood during workups for our rotation.
NTC is the devil.
Lawman
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Honestly with some of the stupid that goes on out here due to "getting after it" and other terrible ideas, I felt less safe in the 2 weeks here than I did the whole time I was in Afghanistan.
It's sister JRTC at Polk didn't seem to have as many problems.
I can remember well living in my FAC CUCV out on Leach Lake, near the TOC that was made up of four M577s backed together with a tarp in between them.
I wonder, is it Army standard for Batallion Commanders to be on 24/7 pissed off mode?
Could be like the AZ Guard, who crashed two Apaches in one day in Afghan.
tattooguy21
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Never done ntc, but I've hit jrtc 5 times. Seems every unit that goes to jrtc had fewer incidents/accidents than when they hit ntc, even with similar hours being flown. Career goal, avoid ntc.It's sister JRTC at Polk didn't seem to have as many problems.
I can remember well living in my FAC CUCV out on Leach Lake, near the TOC that was made up of four M577s backed together with a tarp in between them.
I wonder, is it Army standard for Batallion Commanders to be on 24/7 pissed off mode?
Could be like the AZ Guard, who crashed two Apaches in one day in Afghan.
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I wonder, is it Army standard for Batallion Commanders to be on 24/7 pissed off mode?
We almost exclusively receive only bad news. All the time.