Breastfeeding F9 Pilots Want Privacy at Work

Goonie said:
Why are Americans such titty babies when it comes to breast feeding?
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I dunno...I've never come across anybody who has said anything about it. And I endured a year of being attached to a breastfeeding duo. Had somebody ever said anything I probably would have thought "what a f'ing •," and gone about my day.
 
Xcaliber said:
I see the issue less as the other pilot being forced to have a breast exposed in front of them than the mother being forced to expose her breast to a stranger in a cramped space. I don't care, you don't care, and most men won't care, but really, can you blame the mother for wanting to have a private space? And that's not even getting in to the discussion of safety of flight.

Just saying "use the lav" is a weak response. If you have 3 two-hour flights in a day with 45 minute turns in between, are you really going to leave the cockpit and take up the first class lav for 15 minutes and expect that to be ok with everyone? I don't know what the answer is, but I feel like there has to be something better than the current situation.
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No, man, I agree with you completely. My comment was aimed more towards the people who seemed terrified of the thought of a woman whipping out a bewb a couple of feet away from them.
 
Anyone else reading this as, a new mother, who has zero paternity leave. Will still therefore be producing milk, so therefore she must express daily to excise the milk . Or her shirts fronts are going to be heavily soaked, in a matter of hours/days while on a 3-5 day?

Either way for those in the awkward crowd, a female lactating voluntary or involuntarily around you is going to just be as awkward.

Get these ladies company paid maternity leave now. Or a company provided room to express, in the current environment sans maternity leave.

Or better yet, have both options available.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Anyone else reading this as, a new mother, who has zero paternity leave. Will still therefore be producing milk, so therefore she must express daily to excise the milk . Or her shirts fronts are going to be heavily soaked, in a matter of hours/days while on a 3-5 day?

Either way for those in the awkward crowd, a female lactating voluntary or involuntarily around you is going to just be as awkward.

Get these ladies company paid maternity leave now. Or a company provided room to express, in the current environment sans maternity leave.

Or better yet, have both options available.
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Every time someone goes on about how the US is the greatest country in the world I think of two things. The sad state of our Internet access, and the shameful state of our vacation and maternity leave requirements.
 
learflyer said:
Nah. Not scared of teh boobehs. I'm more scared of the immediate reaction of PC and having to immediately support these chicks without thinking of any future consequences and how it affects the rest of us. Judicially this isn't going anywhere anyway. They can either 1. Just by milk at the store. Or 2. Take a FMLA and use that. Don't be suing already financially strapped airlines and spoiling it for the rest of us.

I notice that "female equality" in the professional realm always means the adjudication of a reduction in standards....

"funny that"
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It doesn't.
 
Cptnchia said:
Next thing you know, the chronic mastubators will be demanding a private area and time to "take care of business." After all, isn't that a disease too?
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Is that the same logic that because homosexual marriage is allowed, soon people will be marrying baboons and dogs? :bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:
 
Groundpounder said:
How about if you don't like the setup, or lack thereof to pump, you refrain from having kids?
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OOOOOOORRRRRRRR, we stop treating the aviation industry as this compartmentalized glory hole. Do you think that this is only an issue in aviation? Hell no it isn't, but oh I forgot, because we love to fly, we should just suppress ourselves and our desires to have a family because we get to fly yay!!!!!!!
 
Inverted said:
OOOOOOORRRRRRRR, we stop treating the aviation industry as this compartmentalized glory hole. Do you think that this is only an issue in aviation? Hell no it isn't, but oh I forgot, because we love to fly, we should just suppress ourselves and our desires to have a family because we get to fly yay!!!!!!!
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Aviation has nothing to do with it. If you can't afford to leave work on maternity leave, maybe right now isn't the best time to have kids, no matter if you're flying an airplane, flipping burgers or working in a cubicle. Should Frontier accommodate new mothers better, with either maternity leave or somewhere to go to pump, 100% yes!
 
Groundpounder said:
Aviation has nothing to do with it. If you can't afford to leave work on maternity leave, maybe right now isn't the best time to have kids, no matter if you're flying an airplane, flipping burgers or working in a cubicle. Should Frontier accommodate new mothers better, with either maternity leave or somewhere to go to pump, 100% yes!
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Your mentality and aviation has lots to do with it. I have a friend who is a nurse, and she was given 6 months off by her employer for maternity leave. Lots of other industries get paid maternity leave, and California law requires it but only gives 6 weeks. It is so easy for some man, or woman who has never had kids to try to impose ideologies and views but the reality is, you have no freaking clue. It is really frustrating to read anyone in this day and age who isn't at least a little empathetic to the situation of somebody else who may have a lifestyle different from theirs. My wife got 6 weeks off, and had to go back to work, and I had to watch her leave her new baby at home while she went back to work, nobody should have to leave their baby after a month and a half to go back to work, but at least she was in a position to pump. How do you force somebody back to work after 6 weeks, or worse yet, not offer any paid leave so they have to go back to work to collect a paycheck AND not give them the ability to at least pump. Why do we have such a propensity in this country to treat people like dogcrap?
 
BTW Groundpounder, I find it VERY ironic that you choose to call me out in the Cape Air thread about commenting on something that doesn't affect me, when you are ready to make policy on maternity leave and breastfeeding.
 
Inverted said:
BTW Groundpounder, I find it VERY ironic that you choose to call me out in the Cape Air thread about commenting on something that doesn't affect me, when you are ready to make policy on maternity leave and breastfeeding.
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Whoa, lets back up a second. I said that there should be paid maternity at F9, and I also said they should make accommodations for mothers to pump their breast milk. And I'm all for people trying to change that. But my point was that if your employer isn't terribly accommodating to new mothers, or you can't afford to go out on unpaid leave, or you can't change jobs, perhaps right now isn't the best time to have a kid. Last time I checked, getting pregnant was something that people can control.
 
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