Networking and You

It's sad this post has to be made. Is it hard not to act a fool, especially when someone helps you get hired?

I will point people in the right direction, but I have yet to personally recommend someone.
 
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But....if you're going to burn a bridge, make sure you do it with 110% effort. Do not half-ass it.

I'm talking a full on sweep and clear.


Blow the damn thing up.......

But in all seriousness, don't be one of those....
 
"How they are personally and how they are professionally....." (we all know how it goes I'm just here for the story lol)

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This is a tough situation and it will be resolved agreeably but all parties involved.

This post DOES NOT apply to this specific situation, but is a general statement. The specific details, parties in question, etc are private and will remain so.


My only input is career guidance is a two way street. If I put your name on your application and you get a job, my name remains in your shadow the rest of your career.

So your sins are my sins and the converse is true as well.

If you want a recommendation by me for my company, I will do my best to make sure you achieve your career goals because my name is my "brand". If don't share that feeling, do not ask me for a recommendation because it comes with a lot of responsibility and I will be on your shizzle if you're not respecting that. If it's just for a job and you plan on telling the world that "Welp, got mine, pull up the rope", again, don't ask. I don't care if you have nine starving children, need a job here and the sun will black out… my name on your recommendation means that you're part of "The Cause". Period. Don't care how busy you are collecting ex-wives, children and beat-up suitcases.

Want my name on your LOR or application? Oh, that's when the hard work begins because I have very high expectations. Continuous, career-long expectations. The casual reader may think it's arrogant, cool, I'm glad you think that because if you do, you probably aren't a person who I would recommend anyway. Hell, I have a friend that will ask, "Do you have any internal letters of recommendation?" "Cool, so how do you know (whomever) and how did you meet?" :) (read: Did you simply ride someone's jumpseat, got a card and they wrote you a letter like they've known you for years?)

Again, this post DOES NOT apply to this specific situation, but is a general statement. The specific details are private and will remain so.
 
Because It's a teachable moment.

This specific situation @Polar742 speaks of is being resolved privately and will reach a mutually amiable outcome.
I agree that there is a teachable moment but starting threads like this doesn't help. I understand that there might be frustration and embarrassment but not saying anything of meaning does not help and leads minds to speculate.
 
I agree that there is a teachable moment but starting threads like this doesn't help. I understand that there might be frustration and embarrassment but not saying anything of meaning does not help and leads minds to speculate.
I think the meaning is very clear:


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A pilot at any carrier or at any aviation business/entity who goes out of his way to help a fellow pilot, is really putting his own ass on the line for that person. No one needs repercussions, but there are repercussions when you introduce someone, write a LOR for them, put them in touch with the right people, tell someone (the powers that be) at your shop about a fellow aviator and try to help them either make a connection that they can use in the future, or perhaps to even get an interview and then that pilot turns out to be or acts like a dick.

Whether he behaves in a fashion that is unprofessional, is not grateful for the help that he received, doesn't pay it forward or simply makes everyone (including the people that you stood up to him for) scratch their head, it all reflects back on you. No one needs that. You may well end up screwing the pooch for other people who are someone of character and a person to be proud of. You have hundreds of pilots applying for a position(s) and someone goes out of their way to help and guide you and afterwards, because of your behavior, now regrets that. This may well cause him to never put his name and reputation on the line or someone ever again and it also may cause those in charge to ignore any future recommendations from him. No one needs that kind of slap in the face and the inevitable ripples in the lake that it surely will cause. If anything, if good friends, good connections and relationships mean anything to you in this industry (which is becoming more competitive and in some ways shrinking by the moment) then it would behoove you to do the very best that you can at your job and give 110%, because it's never ever just all about you.

No one needs to know the exact details of an event or circumstance to at least learn a valuable lesson here and to be reminded of what decent professional behavior is and what simply disrespectful and plain stupid behavior is. A person desires to screw themselves.....fine. But don't take others down with you who were generous and kind enough to help you. If you can't show some respect, then don't take the help/assistance.

One would surmise that all of this would be obvious, but to some........apparently not.......... hence the thread.

P.S. @Polar742 I am sorry that this happened to you, Martin. You're a good man and deserve better. Don't let one idiot jade you.
 
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Because It's a teachable moment.

This specific situation @Polar742 speaks of is being resolved privately and will reach a mutually amiable outcome.

I'm all for it. And I realize that there is some frustration that makes one want to create a thread, yet not put somebody completely on blast. But there are fewer ways to make everyone scratch their heads and wonder what the guy did to warrant a thread so we don't make the same mistake. It doesn't really help to be so general after making s thread about something very specific. Just my humble opinion.
 
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