WIA worth it?

PhilosopherPilot said:
I understand what you are saying, and perhaps I'm being unclear. Of course it is good to shop around and visit as many people as you can. But here is an anecdote from this very career fair that demonstrates what I'm trying to say.

I have a friend at a career fair this week. He was on a van in uniform headed over to run a fast pass line. Sitting one seat in front of him was a guy talking loudly about his 3 fast passes. He said, "I really want to go to Xxxx legacy, but I have fast passes to Yyyy legacy too, oh and one for JetBlue. I just got that one for the hell of it. If I got a job there I would go just long enough to get on at Xxxx legacy."

My friend of course heard that. Fast forward 5 hours, and who is sitting across my friend's table? That guy. Don't be that guy.

Be the guy who shows up, open minded, and learns about every airline. Then at the next career fair, if you want an interview with JetBlue, prove it.
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That's just career Darwinism.

For JetBlue to be up front and say 'don't make us a stepping stone' is disingenuous.
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
I understand what you are saying, and perhaps I'm being unclear. Of course it is good to shop around and visit as many people as you can. But here is an anecdote from this very career fair that demonstrates what I'm trying to say.

I have a friend at a career fair this week. He was on a van in uniform headed over to run a fast pass line. Sitting one seat in front of him was a guy talking loudly about his 3 fast passes. He said, "I really want to go to Xxxx legacy, but I have fast passes to Yyyy legacy too, oh and one for JetBlue. I just got that one for the hell of it. If I got a job there I would go just long enough to get on at Xxxx legacy."

My friend of course heard that. Fast forward 5 hours, and who is sitting across my friend's table? That guy. Don't be that guy.

Be the guy who shows up, open minded, and learns about every airline. Then at the next career fair, if you want an interview with JetBlue, prove it.
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A buddy at another airline really recommended I go get a A320 type rating to show his company I really wanted to work there. I don't really want to work there but I do want to work for JetBlue since I'm from Massachusetts originally, and Everyone I know there and anyone who knows someone who works there all say they love it. Would getting an Airbus type rating help get me there quicker?

I know this is traditionally a "I want to go to southwest" thing, but I have the opportunity to get a government paid 73 type rating using the GI bill. I haven't flown in 3 years and am just starting a Job flying King airs after I got out of the military in order to get current before I get my ATP and submit my app to JetBlue. Would showing up with a 737 type rating in my logbook hurt me even if I haven't applied to SWA and have no intention to?

Thanks for the info.
 
zippy said:
A buddy at another airline really recommended I go get a A320 type rating to show his company I really wanted to work there. I don't really want to work there but I do want to work for JetBlue since I'm from Massachusetts originally, and Everyone I know there and anyone who knows someone who works there all say they love it. Would getting an Airbus type rating help get me there quicker?

I know this is traditionally a "I want to go to southwest" thing, but I have the opportunity to get a government paid 73 type rating using the GI bill. I haven't flown in 3 years and am just starting a Job flying King airs after I got out of the military in order to get current before I get my ATP and submit my app to JetBlue. Would showing up with a 737 type rating in my logbook hurt me even if I haven't applied to SWA and have no intention to?

Thanks for the info.
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Do not spend your own money on a type rating. Period.
 
To go back to the OP, worth it. Definitely worth it. Especially if you're one of those people, like me, that has some things on paper that a human would understand but a computer won't.

The other part that is very worth it is the socializing. Meet old friends and make new ones. Stay out drinking and telling stories.

Will there be negative experiences and feelings of waste, probably. Welcome to the human experience. But if you show up with the mindset of making positive things happen and you're not a social retard, good things will happen. Good memories will be made. Good friendships will begin. Old friendships can rekindle. Beer money will be spent.

Totally. Worth. It.
 
Speed Pilot said:
The other part that is very worth it is the socializing. Meet old friends and make new ones. Stay out drinking and telling stories.
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This.^

Sounds like you and I had very similar experiences! Too bad we didn't cross paths...maybe we can make that happen at the next time?
 
How about some of you guys that attended the event give us a recap of your experiences?
 
grkero said:
Delta/United/American hired EVERYONE with fast passes!!!

Snooze ya lose!!
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Eh... I'm not particularly interested in going to the majors at this juncture in my career. But there could be some info that may be beneficial to the others.
 
Hacker15e said:
Completely depends on the airline and the circumstance. I recently spoke to Alaska at a job fair, and my time with the Chief Pilot was primarily discussing my resume, and then a bit of discussion about what I felt made Alaska different than other 121 airlines. Another guy at the same fair, speaking to the same Chief Pilot, was asked about Alaska's core values and what they meant to him. Still another guy I know who spoke to one of the HR folks at Alaska was asked, "What does Alaska Spirit mean to you?" He had not studied up enough to know what it really meant, so he stumbled on the question to say the least.
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Guess how many times you'll be asked about the "Alaska Spirt" once you've been hired?...ZERO
 
wayway8 said:
@Derg It was great to meet up with you at WIA. Hope your voice recovers and you get some rest.
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I met him too and was really glad I went. It was my first job fair/conference and it was a great experience. Instead of sitting in a cockpit bitching about not "progressing" in this career, it was nice to meet with people and be surrounded by like minded folks. The whole show was run very well and was organized a lot better than I had expected. No real lines to speak of and plenty of time to get to know everyone. Because, after all, the companies have to sell themselves to us - just as much as us being debbie desperate to them.
 
It is exactly what you make it.

Airlines are there competing with one another for the best candidates, believe me. And best has nothing to do with the highest amount of flight time either.
 
Hacker15e said:
How about APC/FI/JC post count?
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Totally. :)

I do scan the internet during and after looking at the feedback.

I guess I need to get stop bring up cool three-color inscribed stylus-pen my wife got me for my upgrade because "OMG! WHen they mark it in red, that means that it's a negative and a tier fifty"

Umm, WAT?! It was just the first color when I twisted the barrel.
 
grkero said:
FI post count maximizes your points the most in the algorithm. Heard it in a hiring brief.
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DO not thread post spike. We keep historical data when you get the invite and compare it to what you have the day prior to your interview date.

"How did applicant have 15,000 posts on APC 1/15/2016 and now on 2/5/2016 only have 35. Fascinating."
 
Derg said:
DO not thread post spike. We keep historical data when you get the invite and compare it to what you have the day prior to your interview date.

"How did applicant have 15,000 posts on APC 1/15/2016 and now on 2/5/2016 only have 35. Fascinating."
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Ugh. If they keep closing these loopholes, I don't think I will ever have a chance.
 
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