Any Club Jet pilots on here?

Great. What were the conditions, what were the circumstances?

The only other case at NetJets was the Sugarland incident during heavy rain, but that was more of a training issue as opposed to an aircraft performance issue.
 
Inverted said:
Great. What were the conditions, what were the circumstances?

The only other case at NetJets was the Sugarland incident during heavy rain, but that was more of a training issue as opposed to an aircraft performance issue.
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I don't know all the particulars of either incident, so I will not make an analysis. There is a significant concern with wet surfaces and the possibility of steam lifting the tire surface and/or lack of braking perception, as in the winter situations. Not having reversers certainly contributes.

I'm not saying the airplane cannot be operated safely. To the contrary, I have years of experience in it, and only had one slippery surface "moment" that would not have been changed with reverse thrust. It is an airplane that has a combination of factors making it significantly more critical to make early, conservative analysis and divert decisions when runway conditions are less than ideal.
 
Well we operate 45 of them we have done it very well but we can only do so much. Steam lifting hasn't been talked about at my company from what I have seen, but being a single truck wheel, it's not crazy. I know we have switched tires and that has helped things. The airplane is fine if you do it right. If what I am hearing turns out to be true, it sounds like the crew was told to keep the speed up and exit at the end. But that is from the Monday morning quarterbacking, I can't substantiate anything officially.


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Agreed. But you have to keep control of the aircraft when doing so regardless of the conditions. Can't keep 100kts down to the last 500 feet of runway on blowing snow and expect to stop. Not saying that's what happened here but if it is, it's not good.
 
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