New Regional Recruiting Tactics

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It's not even wrong. At Mesa it used to be a hanging offense to ever break into the Captain's Emergency Biscoff reserve. Then one day cookies showed up in the Denver pilot lounge, for a while anyway.

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CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
Unfortunately for all of you I'm already several thousand dollars invested in this venture. Before year-end I'll be at a shop working alongside some of you and eventually be at american. I have connections.
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I work for American and know the people that hire new dispatchers. Hopefully, you are different in person than you are here online. The internet lends itself to these kinds of situations. If you have this kind of attitude in person, the people who do the hiring will likely catch on to it and wont hire you.

There are many dispatchers throughout the industry with connections who have not been hired by American. A lot of them are probably better connected than you are. While there are various reasons for each of them not being hired, it goes without saying that just because you know a lot of people there is no guarantee of getting hired.

Keep in mind, the next time we hire will likely be after the JCBA is complete. There are many Envoy dispatchers who are well liked at American who in the past may not have applied that might try to move up. On top of this, there are a large number of internals in other IOC groups and the other wholly owned regionals have many dispatchers wanting to move up as well.

There is a large group of people for us to choose industry wide. Dispatch is a small world and a majority of your peers everywhere likely have connections here. It is not good to pick fights in this business. People may tempt you to lash out at them but you need to stay disciplined and maintain better self control. If you lash out like this at your fellow dispatchers when you get to a regional, you can be sure that it wont lead to good things.
 
CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
Unfortunately for all of you I'm already several thousand dollars invested in this venture. Before year-end I'll be at a shop working alongside some of you and eventually be at american. I have connections.
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HE HAS CONNECTIONS!!!
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Flagship_dxer said:
I work for American and know the people that hire new dispatchers. Hopefully, you are different in person than you are here online. The internet lends itself to these kinds of situations. If you have this kind of attitude in person, the people who do the hiring will likely catch on to it and wont hire you. There are many dispatchers throughout the industry with connections who have not been hired by American. A lot of them are probably better connected than you are. While there are various reasons for each of them not being hired, it goes without saying that just because you know a lot of people there is no guarantee of getting hired.
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This. I can't agree with this enough. I have seen this happen a few times with people I've met along the way who applied at regionals and majors. It takes more than connections. That may be a foot in the door to interview but without the right attitude and personality that the hiring managers see as being a good fit for the group, it probably won't happen. Arrogance does not go over well.
 
womanpilot73 said:
This. I can't agree with this enough. I have seen this happen a few times with people I've met along the way who applied at regionals and majors. It takes more than connections. That may be a foot in the door to interview but without the right attitude and personality that the hiring managers see as being a good fit for the group, it probably won't happen. Arrogance does not go over well.
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Indeed. I've seen it happen at regionals also, once where a well qualified candidate with 121 dispatching experience showed up to an interview with a sense of entitlement that the job was already his, and didn't get an offer.
 
CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
Unfortunately for all of you I'm already several thousand dollars invested in this venture. Before year-end I'll be at a shop working alongside some of you and eventually be at american. I have connections.
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By some chance that you are actually going to get your dispatch license with a plan to work as a dispatcher, you may want to consider how small this industry is. You've already alienated yourself here and if you go into a regional like you've represented yourself here, you're going to alienate yourself from the entire group you work with. I can't imagine why anyone would want to work in an environment like that on a daily basis. Just a suggestion, but you might want to take a step back, get the ego and attitude in check, and realize that you are only hurting yourself here - if indeed you are who you say you are.
 
CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
Unfortunately for all of you I'm already several thousand dollars invested in this venture. Before year-end I'll be at a shop working alongside some of you and eventually be at american. I have connections.
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Lose the attitude and network here and you can have even more connections and guidance.

I'm just a pilot and don't frequent the dispatcher stuff much, but this community can be an amazing help if you let it. There are many people here who know more than you ever will. Less dick swinging, more listening will get you far.

As a general observation, if you can't handle an Internet forum without resorting to insults, you aren't going to do well in the stressful dispatching environment.
 
R2D said:
I'm still new here so count me out. o_O

Though, I feel like the attitude to want to learn and understand that you aren't the only one who knows what they're doing goes a long way.
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It's okay to be new. I still consider myself new with all the friendships that have been built here. I will say just have a positive attitude and being able to take criticism goes a long way on the forums. Most people here are great people with LOTS of useful information.

It just seems to be tools and trolls like the guy above that give airline forums a bad name.
 
tcco94 said:
It's okay to be new. I still consider myself new with all the friendships that have been built here. I will say just have a positive attitude and being able to take criticism goes a long way on the forums. Most people here are great people with LOTS of useful information.

It just seems to be tools and trolls like the guy above that give airline forums a bad name.
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Most certainly. I didn't walk into my last interview with a pretentious attitude. I got where I am going through hard work and some good timing. I understand that.

The last place someone should feel insulted is an anonymous internet forum. I still think we're being trolled by this guy.
 
CRJInTheHeartOfTexas said:
Unfortunately for all of you I'm already several thousand dollars invested in this venture. Before year-end I'll be at a shop working alongside some of you and eventually be at american. I have connections.
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Trust me when I tell you, our connections FAAAAR outweigh your connections. Your way into the Family isn't to insult every Wise Guy you come across.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
Lose the attitude and network here and you can have even more connections and guidance.

I'm just a pilot and don't frequent the dispatcher stuff much, but this community can be an amazing help if you let it. There are many people here who know more than you ever will. Less dick swinging, more listening will get you far.

As a general observation, if you can't handle an Internet forum without resorting to insults, you aren't going to do well in the stressful dispatching environment.
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Boom.
 
Let me type this out while munching my popcorn.

Having worked at a few regionals, I will never disparage a regional dispatcher because the workload sucks, the pay sucks. Its meatball dispatching. BUT, go in with a good attitude, the experience of cranking out releases at a regional, hell nearly any regional, is invaluable.

You MUST have a thick skin to survive however.

At a certain scumbag nonsked supplemental I worked at (who is no longer in existence) we needed a warning sign going into the SOC - HR FREE ZONE, it was a free fire area, and if cussing offends you (if anything offends you), or if you wear your heart on your sleeve, you might want to reconsider your career choice. I don't care if you're the son of an airline CEO, you will be a target with that attitude, and if you come across in the control center as an "I dont have to care because I have connections who will protect me" you will be worthless as a dispatcher. We have to trust each other in that room (even if we do ride your ass), and if I dont trust you (read that as I think you can't dispatch worth •, or you have left me some shift turnover turds before (missed alternates required, routing into a continuous line of level 5 TS with tops to FL600)), I will refuse to take a handoff from you.

Oh, and having worked at a UA Regional, I loved the picture.
 
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