4 Raptors deploy to Korea

[MikeD]

That high level official that was caught, I understand NK is a cult, but was he really working at the time for the NK? Or did he see the light and defect? How was he in contact with the NK?

How do they infiltrate? If they don't come back to they then kill all the family left behind?

He was a high-ranking guy in the Korean National Police. How much he was actively passing info I don't know. It was said that he had come over very early on, like some kind of Manchurian candidate-style person. I'm not sure the exacting details of how he was operating day to day in that regard.

Infiltration for the SF isn't necessarily right across the DMZ, as it's pretty heavily patrolled and mined, although thats possible. Generally, they'll come via the ocean and via miniature submarines, one of which accidently beached in the mid-90s on South shores, and the a large manhunt of special types happened for a number of weeks. Here's some detail on that:

http://www.homeland1.com/homeland-s...-korean-adventures-in-unconventional-warfare/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yeosu

How far away is Seoul from the NK border?

The northern outskirts of Seoul is darn near within spitting distance of the NK border, which is why that city is so susceptible to attack and artillery barrage.

The North and South have constant skirmishes, especially between their Navies, with both sides having lost ships and personnel in these battles. The so-called "crab wars" is a very common one off the western coast, when it comes to fishing grounds located amongst disputed islands located next to the DMZ

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/EF14Dg03.html

Alot of this is very intriguing if you really look into it, as its easily missed in the news/press.

 

[nagylyk]

Would be cooler if they were actual dinosaurs.

 

[NovemberEcho]

The standing orders for ATCers in Korea in the event of a NK invasion was pretty much launch the planes, smash your scopes, good luck. All the forces stationed in the northern part of SK are pretty much a speed bump to give time for our forces to rally and make their way to the theatre.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Just curious, does anyone think this might be a weak response? I mean sure there is virtually nothing that can touch the plane, but 4 is a small number. Considering this is a show of force wouldn't we want to send like a squadron? Are the cuts so bad in the military that this is really all we can afford?

Having zero operational knowledge on this stuff I'll throw out a guess. The F-22 and likely F-35 are flying "command centers". One of them can control an entire battlefield. Coordinating Intel, targets, friendly resources. It does everything AWACS does and more. 4 of them can effectively "CAP" all of NK. With the support of the SK F-16 and F-15 of course.

Sending 4 raptors over seems like a bit of an over reaction to me. We have all read that a Mig 21 can "out dogfight" an F-22, derp derp derp. However, I think the story really is the F-22 coordinated the long distance death of every SAM, fighter, radar and anything else to do with air power within about a 600 mile circle. With the help of its 4th gen friends, of course. Likely the help of a C-17 missile truck and a multitude of Tomahawk missiles. Who cares if the F-22 or F-35 can dogfight. It painted every important target in the battlefield and coordinated with every single asset in theater to see the destruction of those targets.

I can imagine that 4 of those raptors could pretty much shut NK down from the air.

So who wants to hire me to write for Janes?


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[Adler]

The Bridge of No Return

 

[NovemberEcho]

The problem is most fighters can't talk to the F22 due to software differences. That's why F-22's never went to Libya.

 

[alaskadrifter]

The Bridge of No Return

Did you take that? If so you get aroooooound.

 

[Adler]

Did you take that? If so you get aroooooound.

Yup. It was sweet.

Here's a DPRK soldier keeping an eye on us.

 

[matthew]

About 16 or so years ago, I was an A-10 FAC based over there.

Oh that was you doing tight turns at 1000 AGL right above our heads. We need to have a talk about the new pair of pants I had to put on that day...

 

[Malko]

Unless you are a HOD, "pizza night" on the boat (in the wardroom) is literally half thawed frozen pizzas, at least these days. But you might as well eat it because you are writing a check for $350/month for food that the CS's can throw in a microwave while on deployment. Gone are the days when that money actually bought something worthwhile.

Shoot when I was on the Ranger (WestPac '92) the Officers Mess had deep dish pizza every single night. I was working nights in (X-2) and one of our younger guys had ship duty there. There was always extras and long about 0130,0200 we'd get a knock on the door with our delivery. It got to the point where we had some chiefs stopping by ti check on us just so they could share in the goodies.....

 

[jskibo]

Shoot when I was on the Ranger (WestPac '92) the Officers Mess had deep dish pizza every single night. I was working nights in (X-2) and one of our younger guys had ship duty there. There was always extras and long about 0130,0200 we'd get a knock on the door with our delivery. It got to the point where we had some chiefs stopping by ti check on us just so they could share in the goodies.....

Guys we sent TDY to the Goat locker brought us back way better goodies than the ones we shipped to blue tile country. 5 gallon buckets of ice cream, cases of berries and fresh fruit. Funny how Day check never got any of it.........guess we "lost" it all on nights

 

[Malko]

Guys we sent TDY to the Goat locker brought us back way better goodies than the ones we shipped to blue tile country. 5 gallon buckets of ice cream, cases of berries and fresh fruit. Funny how Day check never got any of it.........guess we "lost" it all on nights

Whenever we had a supply party I always volunteered to help out in the refrigerated area. You got all the good stuff. It was funny as heII watching a case of fresh fruit arriving to the fridge half empty. I don't know what happened.

 

[DeltaAlphaNovember]

I lived in Seoul Korea for two years when my dad was stationed at Yongsan Army Post. We did the DMZ tour anytime we had visitors from the U.S. That was a really great tour, but also very intimidating. I remember signing a form that said if we got shot we could not hold the Army responsible. The other thing I recall was the huge North Korean flag that was part of the fake village. They told us if we could go and get that flag and bring it back, we would get enough money to retire. The thought of NK invading the south is chilling. I think anyone north of Osan AFB would be hard pressed to get out alive. But then again it has been since 1992 that I was there. So who knows what has changed.

 

[derg]

Jackwagon!

YOOOOOOU are the jack wagon!


So frustrated. Life is so unfair.

 

[fiveninerzero]

Very nostalgic talks about P-518--I've spent many cold winter nights standing on top of the many hilltops next to my green or tan truck out in OP-2 and OP-3 waiting on aircraft that mx cnx or just don't show up for whatever reason. CAS isn't for everyone.

On another note, regarding OP: the US forces there right now in "armistice," as they call it, are just there as a political overtone to reassure our allies. Numerically, a brigade of mechanized infantry and 4 fighter squadrons with a couple of F-22s as a theater security package will not do much on their own against a million North Koreans in the event of hostilities. The real response will come from the hundreds of thousands of backup forces and hundreds of aircraft which will start arriving a few hours after the magic kicks off.