Hawker Down near AKR

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Air Crash investigation video for the Turkish crash. His commentary is spread throughout the video. His first camera appearance 14:40. ILS comments starting at 15:40.



Don't get me wrong, he seems like a friendly great guy, but when you know you're being interviewed and going to be inserted into a video that specifically deals with a crew that messed up on an ILS approach, probably best to leave those kinda comments out. The public doesn't need to hear that. Although in his defense, he didn't see the clip segment before and after his own clip insertion. You see the Turkish plane cleared for the ILS approach, then his comment of how easy it is and even his daughter can land a 737 following an ILS in a sim, and then followed by a sim showing this crew messing up.
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Cool thanks. I didn't have the interest to sit through the video to see what his name is but I think I've flown with that guy. (edit: Yup, I've flown with that guy)

Never speak to the media. I get what he's saying, but at the end of the day, with editing, the message changes to fit the narrative that the producer wants to draw. And it's got to be salacious in order to sell ad space.
 
And yeah, he's a real nice guy. Bought me dinner in Den Haag and an appreciable amount of liquid refreshments.
 
I have no doubt. He looks and comes off knowledgeable and friendly. With the exception of the daughter sim landing comment, the rest of his stuff in the episode is very well done and professional.
 
T/O w/FSII said:
Because pros don't undermine their own profession by saying little kids can do it.
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Straw mans argument. You can reach yourself with desktop simulator, then step into a full motion sim and have at it. It's not undermining the profession IMO. Kids can do a lot of things "professionals" do.
 
T/O w/FSII said:
Because pros don't undermine their own profession by saying little kids can do it.
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How about cavemen?

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mshunter said:
Straw mans argument. You can reach yourself with desktop simulator, then step into a full motion sim and have at it. It's not undermining the profession IMO. Kids can do a lot of things "professionals" do.
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Regardless, it was a bit duechy to say considering the subject matter. If he is a stand up guy as reported by Doug, I'd bet he wishes he could have that moment back. Hence the point, don't talk to the media...
 
bucksmith said:
If he is a stand up guy as reported by Doug, I'd bet he wishes he could have that moment back. Hence the point, don't talk to the media...
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He's a stand-up guy.

I gather that since you haven't seen him in any other shows, he had the "Hey man, WAT?! Come on, now!" when he curled up on the couch with a bowl of popcorn to watch his television debut.

I figure 100% of the time you open your mouth on camera, it will be (a) taken out of context and (b) trimmed and molded to meet the narrative that best fits the narrative.

I know that if any of you get in trouble, it's going to be something like "And the person frequented a website run by a certain 'Derg' who apparently worked for a fictitious airline named SouthernJets that proudly admits that took a poop in @DPApilot's hotel bathroom in some bold feat to display dominance and declare himself 'Type A'"
 
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Derg said:
He's a stand-up guy.

I gather that since you haven't seen him in any other shows, he had the "Hey man, WAT?! Come on, now!" when he curled up on the couch with a bowl of popcorn to watch his television debut.

I figure 100% of the time you open your mouth on camera, it will be (a) taken out of context and (b) trimmed and molded to meet the narrative that best fits the narrative.

I know that if any of you get in trouble, it's going to be something like "And the person frequented a website run by a certain 'Derg' who apparently worked for a fictitious airline named SouthernJets that proudly admits that took a poop in @DPApilot's hotel bathroom in some bold feat to display dominance and declare himself 'Type A'"
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Just so everyone here knows, that actually happened. And I quote @Derg

"*Doug laugh* I'm just an old man taking a poop!"


I mean, I had two bathrooms, why couldn't he have used the other one. My master bath was ruined.
 
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if this DL Captain actually sat down for several hours and just shot the breeze, talked all things aviation, including ILSs and intercepts from above glideslope. And in that several hour talk he probably just slid a comment in there that an ILS is easy to fly that a daughter could do it in a 737 sim and land. He probably didn't know they would snip only the juicy part of what fits their ideas.

But one still has to look at the context for what they are being interviewed for, and in this case, it was a Turkish 737NG on an ILS approach that had a radio altimeter go to 0 through most of the flight, and capture Flare / thrust idle mode without the crew catching it in time and the rest is history. It's probably not a good idea to tell the public in an interview how easy it is to shoot an ILS that anyone can really do it. I know it's basically a computer game (his words) but still, the public will take things literally when you say it and it doesn't look good for the episode.
 
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if this DL Captain actually sat down for several hours and just shot the breeze, talked all things aviation, including ILSs and intercepts from above glideslope. And in that several hour talk he probably just slid a comment in there that an ILS is easy to fly that a daughter could do it in a 737 sim and land. He probably didn't know they would snip only the juicy part of what fits their ideas.

But one still has to look at the context for what they are being interviewed for, and in this case, it was a Turkish 737NG on an ILS approach that had a radio altimeter go to 0 through most of the flight, and capture Flare / thrust idle mode without the crew catching it in time and the rest is history. It's probably not a good idea to tell the public in an interview how easy it is to shoot an ILS that anyone can really do it. I know it's basically a computer game (his words) but still, the public will take things literally when you say it and it doesn't look good for the episode.
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That's kind of the idea. I spoke with a reporter from "Jane" magazine for about two hours and a few snippets of our chat ended up in print. They did a fairly decent job, but I guess it wasn't compelling enough to warrant expensive space in the magazine. I intentionally didn't give them any juicy "red herrings" so it was tame.

The NASA interview was factual but I kept it on a basic, scientific level — most pilots want to opine and "Well if crew scheduling didn't screw me so bad, I wouldn't have been so tired and taxiied into that ICE CREAM TRUCK! Put that in the article!"

The Japan interview was questions and answers back and forth for about a month, some honing by corporate communications and some honing by me and then a very specific script to follow for direct translation.

In the end, don't speak to the media. If you do, make sure you're running the game and have (a) some media training and (b) a blessing from the largest paycheck in your financial picture.
 
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