The difference between a drug charge and a DUI

Luigi said:
I could foresee a day when marijuana would be legal, and there would be limits associated with it, much like alcohol. I don't know if they have a cost effective test that will tell them if say you've smoked in the last 12 hours or if it's currently affecting you. I imagine the test would have to come out before anything like what I described occurring.
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Pretty easy. They would open their trunk and present you with a case of mountain dew and three bags of cheese puffs.

If you moved to sample any, BOOM, you're stoned and off to jail!

Damn cost effective test (($6.00 case of dew, 3 @ $0.99 cheese puffs)
 
Luigi said:
I could foresee a day when marijuana would be legal, and there would be limits associated with it, much like alcohol. I don't know if they have a cost effective test that will tell them if say you've smoked in the last 12 hours or if it's currently affecting you. I imagine the test would have to come out before anything like what I described occurring.
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A saliva test would be better. More difficult to cheat and the detection window is only 3-4 days. I'm not happy that someone can look at my pee and see into my life when I wasn't on duty. But really like @Derg mentioned, if I wanted to smoke dope I wouldn't be a pilot.

"Drugs are bad M'kay."
 
Derg said:
I have no idea because we're talking hypotheticals. But that friend has pretty much wrecked your life for the near future but you will recover.

Maybe they'll give you unpaid leave for a period of time to clean up, I don't know.
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They would probably send the individual for a substance abuse evaluation. If it happened as it was hypothetically said and the person didn't have a problem, the evaluation would show that. The person would then be asked to come back when it is out of their system.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
A saliva test would be better. More difficult to cheat and the detection window is only 3-4 days. I'm not happy that someone can look at my pee and see into my life when I wasn't on duty. But really like @Derg mentioned, if I wanted to smoke dope I wouldn't be a pilot.

"Drugs are bad M'kay."
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Don't smoke da dope. Enjoy your career, worry free.

Mom and dad and your jobless hacky sack partners are wrong. :)
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Delta hired an infamous regional CA who was arrested butt naked with a flight attendant in the woods and he had nothing but a wristwatch and a pair of flip flops on.
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Good.

Why should someone be punished if they have a disease, they get treatment and get cured from that disease?
 
Derg said:
Don't smoke da dope. Enjoy your career, worry free.

Mom and dad and your jobless hacky sack partners are wrong. :)
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I'd say as a whole my dope smoking friends from Marin County make more money than I do and work less. AND smoke dope. But then again that has nothing to do with all the times I signed my right to privacy away on my FAA medical form and pretty much every application to everywhere that I have worked in aviation...
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
I'd say as a whole my dope smoking friends from Marin County make more money than I do and work less. AND smoke dope. But then again that has nothing to do with all the times I signed my right to privacy away on my FAA medical form and pretty much every application to everywhere that I have worked in aviation...
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That's cool, everyone's got an uncle who dropped out of high school at 14 and is a CEO of a multi-billion dollar company.

BUT

You can't smoke dope and be an airline pilot.

You can stop smoking dope, get clean, then become an airline pilot but those are two activities which are disastrous when blended.

I'm not trying to be a dick to you, I'm trying to be direct so I don't get flooded with more "Dear Dough, I had three weeks of vacation and the dreadlocked man at the Cheba Hut in Cancun said that this magic fairy dust will 'cleanse' my body of traces of THC…"
 
@Derg I can't imagine what has flooded your inbox.
Sometimes I feel as if your talking to a wall, however I do know some heed your advice.

I know a guy who might let you catch a rabbit. Also, @MikeD is a wuss.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
He's saying that the guy wasn't an alcoholic. Are you retarded, or just obtuse?
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You are the dumbass.

I have heard he entered the 'program' after the incident. You can't just enter the program...so what he is saying is wrong and wasn't following him.
 
Seggy said:
You are the dumbass. I have heard he entered the 'program' after the incident. You can't just enter the program...so what he is saying is wrong and wasn't following him.
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You knew what he was saying. You've just been trolling around here lately.
 
Derg said:
@MikeD wouldn't eat the rabbit.

Big, tall, tough Persian wouldn't eat the sweet, delicious rabbit. :)
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I got a Letter of Admonishment for failure to protect government property. And told that my career was over right there as a Second Lieutenant. Somehow I still managed to wander over to the F-117. :)

Which is ironic, because my act of releasing the rabbit to the wild, instead of allowing it to be killed for the purpose of survival training out there in the field, was protecting government property.
 
I don't know the details in terms of if he entered a program. My understanding of HIMS is you have to enter it voluntarily before you screw up and/or get caught. I suppose if alcohol was involved, then the saving grace may have been not flying, or touching an airplane, but it's still a company business overnight so I don't know what the repercussions are for something like that.

Either way, we are talking about Delta Air Lines and their Tier 1 category being called, and regardless of what the reason is and whether or not he cleaned up his act, there are many other Tier 1 candidates who are just as qualified with a spotless record that Delta could have called. It's just funny that it was this guy that still made it through. More power to him I suppose.

Btw, I did fly with that FA in question. I had a TVC overnight and the two of us were waiting for the van (CA was a local, IIRC). She was a weird hippie type. With what she talked and acted, I had the feeling scoring with her wouldn't be too hard. Engaged/married guys have to stay far, far away from her.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Either way, we are talking about Delta Air Lines and their Tier 1 category being called, and regardless of what the reason is and whether or not he cleaned up his act, there are many other Tier 1 candidates who are just as qualified with a spotless record that Delta could have called. It's just funny that it was this guy that still made it through. More power to him I suppose.
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He must bake some excellent cake.
 
Derg said:
That's cool, everyone's got an uncle who dropped out of high school at 14 and is a CEO of a multi-billion dollar company.

BUT

You can't smoke dope and be an airline pilot.

You can stop smoking dope, get clean, then become an airline pilot but those are two activities which are disastrous when blended.

I'm not trying to be a dick to you, I'm trying to be direct so I don't get flooded with more "Dear Dough, I had three weeks of vacation and the dreadlocked man at the Cheba Hut in Cancun said that this magic fairy dust will 'cleanse' my body of traces of THC…"
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haha have you ever eaten at cheba hut in phoenix? Totally reminded me of that sub shop
 
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