Emirates' "Golden Age of Travel"

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

So you're saying it's okay to buy products when they are made in slave like factory conditions as long as it's only confined to one country and it's a product that everyone has or wants, but when an airline hires people and brings them to a Muslim country to work, often at 3-4 times the pay they can make in their own country, they can't have certain rules that ensure some of the religious rules of the host country are not violated? Just want to make sure because it sounds a little bit hypocritical. TP

You can't get by in today's world without a smart phone, and nobody makes a smart phone outside of China. Therefore, you've got no choice but to buy a Chinese made smart phone. I have plenty of choices outside of middle eastern airlines, though. Hence, no comparison.

 

[typhoonpilot]

It's okay, just say hypocritical without the long excuse.

TP

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

It's okay, just say hypocritical without the long excuse.

TP

It's okay, you can admit you used a stupid analogy. Actually, you probably can't. You're probably being paid off to support the ME3.

 

[typhoonpilot]

You can't get by in today's world without a smart phone, and nobody makes a smart phone outside of China. Therefore, you've got no choice but to buy a Chinese made smart phone. I have plenty of choices outside of middle eastern airlines, though. Hence, no comparison.

I can and do, my personal phone is an old Nokia, made in Korea. My work phone is a newer Blackberry made in Mexico. So there is a choice.


TP

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

I can and do, my personal phone is an old Nokia, made in Korea. My work phone is a newer Blackberry made in Mexico. So there is a choice. TP

Not really. I couldn't do my job with either of those phones. And Mexico isn't really better, anyway.

 

[MikeD]

And Mexico isn't really better, anyway.

Donald Trump agrees with this. They aren't our friend.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Donald Trump agrees with this. They aren't our friend.

The Mexican people are awesome. The Mexican authorities? Not so much.

 

[typhoonpilot]

Interesting twist, but not unexpected.

A group of US Airlines is teaming up against American, Delta, and United

By Benjamin Zhang 3 hours ago


According to the coalition, both Atlas and FedEX operate support flights for US military operations in the Middle East.

While the large legacy carriers use their own interational flights to feed domestic routes, smaller airlines such as JetBlue and Hawaiian credit the growing presence of international airlines such as the Middle Eastern three with increasing traffic for their domestic services.
In fact, JetBlue believes the Big 3's goal is to roll back the clock on the airline business.
"JetBlue is not unfamiliar with efforts from the legacy carriers to stifle competition" JetBlue general counsel James Hnat said on a conference call with the media.

"Legacy carriers are trying to protect themselves ... Open Skies is good for trade, economic growth and politics."

(AP) Furthermore, USAOS claimed that increased competition in the airline industry through Open Skies agreements will "generate approximately $4 billion in annual savings for passengers on U.S.-international routes."

USAOS also dimissed United, American, and Delta's claims that 800 airline jobs will be lost for every route they lose to a Middle Eastern airline.

"The threat of job loss is just a distraction from the whole picture," Hnat said during the call. "There are other jobs to be created. It’s a just political distraction."

The Big 3 haven't taken today's announcement without comment. In a swift response, the Partnership for Fair and Open Skies — the lobbying group representing United, Delta, and American — didn't mince words about the formation of the USAOS.

"This is a meaningless coalition without a cause," Partnership for Fair and Open Skies spokesperson Jill Zuckman said in a statement to Business Insider. "The only risk to our Open Skies agreements is the Gulf carriers themselves and their massive, market-distorting government subsidies. Of the 117 Open Skies agreements with the United States, 115 are working beautifully."

Obviously, this is a dispute that's not going away anytime soon, and today's entry of a third party has added an extra wrinkle to the story. Stay tuned for more action.

 

[deadstick]

Interesting twist, but not unexpected.

A group of US Airlines is teaming up against American, Delta, and United

By Benjamin Zhang 3 hours ago


According to the coalition, both Atlas and FedEX operate support flights for US military operations in the Middle East.

While the large legacy carriers use their own interational flights to feed domestic routes, smaller airlines such as JetBlue and Hawaiian credit the growing presence of international airlines such as the Middle Eastern three with increasing traffic for their domestic services.
In fact, JetBlue believes the Big 3's goal is to roll back the clock on the airline business.
"JetBlue is not unfamiliar with efforts from the legacy carriers to stifle competition" JetBlue general counsel James Hnat said on a conference call with the media.

"Legacy carriers are trying to protect themselves ... Open Skies is good for trade, economic growth and politics."

(AP) Furthermore, USAOS claimed that increased competition in the airline industry through Open Skies agreements will "generate approximately $4 billion in annual savings for passengers on U.S.-international routes."

USAOS also dimissed United, American, and Delta's claims that 800 airline jobs will be lost for every route they lose to a Middle Eastern airline.

"The threat of job loss is just a distraction from the whole picture," Hnat said during the call. "There are other jobs to be created. It’s a just political distraction."

The Big 3 haven't taken today's announcement without comment. In a swift response, the Partnership for Fair and Open Skies — the lobbying group representing United, Delta, and American — didn't mince words about the formation of the USAOS.

"This is a meaningless coalition without a cause," Partnership for Fair and Open Skies spokesperson Jill Zuckman said in a statement to Business Insider. "The only risk to our Open Skies agreements is the Gulf carriers themselves and their massive, market-distorting government subsidies. Of the 117 Open Skies agreements with the United States, 115 are working beautifully."

Obviously, this is a dispute that's not going away anytime soon, and today's entry of a third party has added an extra wrinkle to the story. Stay tuned for more action.

I'm ready. I just got to work, the phone isn't ringing, and I've got some popcorn. I can't wait to read what follows.

 

[bp]

They won't take my dead lions/leopards/rhinoceros/elephant either?! Golden age my behind...

 

[citrus]

I'm ready. I just got to work, the phone isn't ringing, and I've got some popcorn. I can't wait to read what follows.

Here is some more fuel for the fire

Delta Air Lines shrinks Dubai service, points to Gulf carrier growth

Reuters
By Jeffrey Dastin

ug 9 (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines Inc has scrapped a number of its flights to Dubai this winter in an apparent nod to how competition with three Gulf carriers is hurting its business.

Delta, the second-largest U.S. passenger carrier, will fly nonstop to Dubai from its Atlanta hub between four and five times per week starting Oct. 1, down from daily service this summer. The airline revised its schedule on Friday to reflect the change, part of a broader 15-to-20 percent cut in capacity to the Middle East and Africa that Delta announced in April.

"The reduction comes amid overcapacity on U.S. routes to the Middle East operated by government-owned and subsidized airlines," Delta spokesman Trebor Banstetter said in a statement, noting that daily service would return in the spring of 2016.

Delta said months ago that its international capacity cuts were in response to falling crude prices hitting demand in oil-rich markets and to the strong U.S. dollar that has hurt the spending power of foreign travelers.

Yet the latest news underscores a trade row that is rippling through Washington.

Large U.S. unions and airlines, led by Delta, charge that Emirates, Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways have received some $42 billion in subsidies from their home governments in the past decade. They say this has allowed the Gulf carriers to start dumping capacity into the United States, driving down prices and pushing out competitors.

The Gulf carriers have denied that they are subsidized and say poor customer service has caused U.S. airlines to lose market share.

Other U.S. carriers such as JetBlue Airways Corp and the air cargo unit of FedEx Corp have backed the Gulf airlines, saying that government action would signal an abandonment of the United States' liberal trade policy in favor of protectionism.

The Obama administration is currently reviewing the issue.

Delta is the only airline that flies between Atlanta and Dubai. Its service reduction will leave the Washington-Dubai flights on rival United Continental Holdings Inc as the only remaining daily nonstop on a U.S. carrier this winter.

Emirates operates a freighter service to Atlanta and currently flies passengers to nine U.S. cities from Dubai, with plans to add more. Qatar Airways will launch Atlanta-Doha flights in July 2016.

(Reporting By Jeffrey Dastin in New York; Editing by Gareth Jones)

link - http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-air-lines-shrinks-dubai-142922654.html?soc_src=copy