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Tommay85
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Especially that damn 99!!!! UGH!
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mmmmmm wine
scooter2525
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Going back home, eh?
A150K
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Yup. It's time. OK has been real, but I'm ready to head back to NM.
Roger Roger
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It's a fun airplane. Amflight I dunno.
KSCessnaDriver
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The best 7 months of flying I've ever done was on the PA31. Best QoL and most fun flying, hands down.
And add to that, if you can pass training in the PA-31 at AMF, you can pass training in anything, anywhere.
KSCessnaDriver
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I couldn't tell you, but I think PA-31 training was harder than 1900 school was. Or DC-9 training where I'm at now.
A150K
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I've heard it's pretty tough. What's the hardest aspect of it? And what are some ways to best prepare for it ahead of time besides reviewing the study material they send out ahead of time?
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Dealing with egotistical freight jocks that are fresh out of Riddle. That and having to have engineer level of knowledge of systems that do you no good in the real world.
Know your flows down 100%, the rest you'll pick up. Guys on here really poopoo me when I say that it's not a training dept, it's more of a checking dept. They aren't there primarily to teach you, more to make sure you progress as each day goes.
Tommay85
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Tommay85
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It's better than what it was. I don't know if there's any D-bags in the program now, but they aren't near the asshats that were in the program 2 years ago. I do know of one, but I think they are 99 only.
Knowing the flows are paramount. The number one priority, as previously said. Learning the 135 and AMF stuff is easy. You get an entire week to do so and I think the current GOM is pretty clear, relatively speaking at least.
If your training captain is a dick, not much you can do. I don't know how good you are at reading people. Some can be disarmed by knodding in agreement and brushing it off(easier said than done), others by throwing it right back at them. Most guys that I've thought were abrasive here respond well to throwing it right back at them. haha
snOOp
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Welcome back to the 505 man! Hopefully JB is still over there, he is an awesome dude.
Also, hopefully some of the SA guys are still there that can show ya the ropes. Awesome people if they are.
Cpt Cook
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FTFY
That's with the best training department at the company too!
I never thought the metro training was all that difficult and never thought the plane was very hard to fly. It was just different and slower to maneuver.
Then again, I was Seattle based and had about a month before hand to mess around in the plane and training room. Kinda helps To know the training/check airman as well.
I'm not a fan of the PA31 either. Maybe I'm the odd one in freight. Which would make me the normal one in the real world.
Tommay85
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I too don't think the Metro and the training was that big of a deal(which is huge props to the training program IMO). I didn't fly the Chieftain here. I do know that the Metro doesn't put up with ANY "shenanigans" though. Every single incident here where the pilot was at fault was because the SOP/GOM wasn't followed though. Perhaps unfairly, the responsibility was put entirely on the pilot in very few circumstances though. FWIW, I thought the way Flight Express operated their 210s/Barons was worse, on paper, than AMF with the Chieftain. Having not done both, I can't say for sure, but the stage cooling at the very least shouldn't be the workload problem at all that many seem to complain about. Based on delay reports, the Metro is the biggest problem child and requires a smart person. The rest of the fleet requires minimal intelligence from what I can tell.
I can only concur that with the 99, Metro and Brasilia though.Our CP said us Metro guys aren't right in the head...
Still trying to figure out who you are. I know a *last name* Cook here, but I'm guessing that's not who I think it is...