Virgin America Pilots ALPA Drive

Ah I guess it is public, I forgot about that website (though to be fair it wasn't updated in a long time).

The cards have been emailed and also being sent to home addresses.
 
amorris311 said:
Don't worry @ATN_Pilot is hand delivering yours. ;)
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Hahaha! As much as I hate to say it, I'll be a yes if only for two big reasons:

1. Merger scenario. Nearly all airlines are ALPA, it only makes sense to join up and get at least some sort of ALPA merger policy as opposed to a company's "best efforts." I'm convinced the next round of consolidation is at the LCC/National level. Virgin, jetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, Hawaiian, Alaska, Allegiant.

2. Accident/incident that's not particularly fully pilot error. It'd be nice to have that 800 number to ALPA's incident/accident response so they can hold your hand in time of need.
 
Such a huge difference between an ALPA drive at a major vs a regional that I did in 04-05'.

THe line of thinking I would have at a major during a union drive would be more long term thinking where as a regional it's more.......don't rock the boat until I leave etc. Just my observation though.
 
mrivc211 said:
Such a huge difference between an ALPA drive at a major vs a regional that I did in 04-05'.

THe line of thinking I would have at a major during a union drive would be more long term thinking where as a regional it's more.......don't rock the boat until I leave etc. Just my observation though.
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I dunno... we spent a lot of money on pizza and sandwiches for the JetBlue guys a couple of times before they came into the fold.
 
BobDDuck said:
I dunno... we spent a lot of money on pizza and sandwiches for the JetBlue guys a couple of times before they came into the fold.
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I think a lot of that had to do with the "It'll never happen to me" thinking, which may have been true under previous management. With the management we've got now, though, it's a pretty quick turnaround from "We'd never do that!" to "We're doing this." There's also been some spin the management has tossed out that makes me wonder if they think pilots can't do basic math (our retirement percentage comes to mind).
 
mrivc211 said:
How did it change?
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They dropped it by $500 a month justifying it by giving new hires a $24/day voucher with 41 days of credit to the restaurant at the hotel ($1066 worth).

ALPA didn't kill the culture, management did. No more new hire BBQ at Sonny's, no significant other in the sims or at orientation, and more importantly, you CANNOT have your wife, girlfriend, etc., come stay with you now during training.

No waivers no favors.
 
SpiceWeasel said:
They dropped it by $500 a month justifying it by giving new hires a $24/day voucher with 41 days of credit to the restaurant at the hotel ($1066 worth). ALPA didn't kill the culture, management did. No more new hire BBQ at Sonny's, no significant other in the sims or at orientation, and more importantly, you CANNOT have your wife, girlfriend, etc., come stay with you now during training. No waivers no favors.
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Not even one or two conjugal visits?
 
SpiceWeasel said:
They dropped it by $500 a month justifying it by giving new hires a $24/day voucher with 41 days of credit to the restaurant at the hotel ($1066 worth).

ALPA didn't kill the culture, management did. No more new hire BBQ at Sonny's, no significant other in the sims or at orientation, and more importantly, you CANNOT have your wife, girlfriend, etc., come stay with you now during training.

No waivers no favors.
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At VX or JB?
 
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