Delta off the Runway - LGA

[Autothrust Blue]

I really with we could measure braking action from the anti-skid and accelerometers and automatically uplink that data to a central database. Then we'd have usable, scientific, up-to-date information about actual conditions than simple subjective observations.

I think it'd be cool to do this with a lot of things. Winds aloft, etc.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Glad everyone's ok and they aren't swimming. However I'm a little sad that I haven't seen one selfie yet, or someone carrying around 8 bags

At this time, all connections still look good, we will update you...

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Good thing Delta has such a rigorous hiring process....

Cold...cold...and hard.

 

[derg]

Good thing Delta has such a rigorous hiring process....

There's an example of a big bite of a nearly ripe Granny Smith apple!

 

[Autothrust Blue]

There's an example of a big bite of a nearly ripe Granny Smith apple!

Did they finish their degrees in 4 years?

 

[L-16B]

By the METAR above it did seem like there was a 16 knot tail wind. Not sure how close that is timestamped in reference to the incident.

No way we could get numbers for this using RC9 landing data

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

Good thing Delta has such a rigorous hiring process....

If you fly enough flights, eventually something will happen. Errors happen to e'rebody. Nobody is immune from error, and sometimes those errors are consequential. It doesn't mean they were bad pilots. (Plus we don't even know if there WERE any errors.) Glass houses, and such...

 

[lwaldeck]

View out the left side

 

[scoobs]

Does this lead to someone getting fired?

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

I think it'd be cool to do this with a lot of things. Winds aloft, etc.

Anyone who uses Aerodata and cost indexing has this capability. Aerodata keeps track of winds aloft, and they get better at forecasting the Cost Indexing as the day goes on and as the system compiles data from airborne flights.

Its pretty cool.

 

[ahw01]

Thanks BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31754912

"LaGuardia is one of the most difficult airports to land at in the US to due its close proximity to three other busy airports."

 

[SeanD]

Glad everyone's ok and they aren't swimming. However I'm a little sad that I haven't seen one selfie yet, or someone carrying around 8 bags

I see a few people carrying items here. Look at the slide show

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Plane-Off-Runway-LaGuardia-Airport-New-York-Snow-295187641.html

 

[tbstanto]

Does this lead to someone getting fired?

Can I have their jerb?

(honestly, I hope that the crew is ok, and is somehow not found to be at fault.)

 

[JayAre]

Having gone skiwompass on the runway it's sick feeling loosing control. I hope I don't ever have it happen again. Or any one of yall.

 

[Minuteman]

I look forward to that dingus Andrew Cuomo somehow trying to make this the National Weather Service's fault.

 

[Runincolorado]

Back in the day, when I slid off a runway, I was met at the airstairs by a lawyer asking if my back hurt and offering me a ride to the terminal in his V12 BMW if I said yes. Then the news crew asked if I had a comment in exchange for a hot chocolate from their van. It was a long cold, lonely, thirsty, walk back to the terminal.

Be careful kid, you will poke your eye out with that selfie stick.

 

[Tuggz19]

USA 5050
USA405
COA795
DAL554
N117FJ
All accidents on RWY13/31 in the last twenty five years or so. Think that might send up a red flag to someone?

 

[Baronman]

Just listening to the Live ATC clip it sounds like he gives a "Good" braking action reported by an A319 right around that time.

I'll tell you what though....Sometimes you can see where everyone has made their turnoff on the same taxiway, and beyond it the RWY looks like hell. Happened to us at JFK not too long. CA lands kinda long (right at end of TDZ lights) and we end up in the snow past where everyone was making the turnoff. Went from Good (where everyone had been) to Poor...

 

[Malko]

Eek. I'm a poor swimmer.

I mean, of course, apart from that first "sprint for the finish line" I took back in the early 1970's after an evening of dinner, dancing and heavy petting.

All the brothers are..... ;-) At least in the Navy Bootcamp. Which begs the question.....If you cant swim, why join the Navy,

 

[Screaming_Emu]

Just listening to the Live ATC clip it sounds like he gives a "Good" braking action reported by an A319 right around that time.

I'll tell you what though....Sometimes you can see where everyone has made their turnoff on the same taxiway, and beyond it the RWY looks like hell. Happened to us at JFK not too long. CA lands kinda long (right at end of TDZ lights) and we end up in the snow past where everyone was making the turnoff. Went from Good (where everyone had been) to Poor...

Yeah, the Good-Nill scale is still really subjective. You can have two different planes/crews land on the same runway and get two different reports. Are they light? Do they brake just up to the point of the anti skid kicking in, or do they just jam on the brakes and let the anti skid do its thing? Like you pointed out, there are a lot of variables. I very much prefer mu values...you know...science!