SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Screaming_Emu said:
Airplanes fly over my house. We're all at risk.
Medical Reform Legislation Introduced
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Airplanes fly over my house. We're all at risk.
Pilot Fighter
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This reminds me of a recent fight I had with my father. My father told me he was afraid of failing his next medical, so he was going to go the sport pilot route to keep flying. I told him that he should consider whether his flying days might be numbered. He responded, "You haven't seen me fly recently." I answered, "No, but I've seen you drive."
gotWXdagain
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For all of these people talking about unecessary risks and all that... You know about driver's licenses, right? I mean, I think we can all agree that someone who is 95 years old and can't see through their cataracts shouldn't be driving a car (nor flying a plane), but how many people have driver's licenses and wear insulin pumps? And how many accidents do they cause? And about acceptance of risk, the average non-pilot passenger is going to find a small airplane much more dangerous than a pilot passenger will, whether or not the pilot had a physical in the last five years.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Were the chemtrails on? Then you are even more at risk!
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
I just pulled into my doctor's office this morning and some old lady almost hit me with her SUV monstrosity. She was wearing a neck brace that made it impossible for her to turn her head and see anything that wasn't right in front of her.
And some of you want people to be able to fly without any medical required at all? We need to be strengthening the requirements for a driver's license, not loosening the requirements to fly a plane.
And some of you want people to be able to fly without any medical required at all? We need to be strengthening the requirements for a driver's license, not loosening the requirements to fly a plane.
PositionAndHold
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33,502 people died in auto accidents in 2012. That's 91.78 people per day. Dead. That's like losing a fully loaded CRJ900 every day of the year. I think if a person in their 60-70's wants to load up an Arrow and fly some place, it isn't any different than loading up their Suburban and driving there. They could have a stroke/heart attack, cross the double yellow and kill everyone. You could be driving the opposite direction and now your dead too. That scenario is much more likely than planes falling out of the sky into houses. This rule will help revitalize GA, not put the public at a greater risk.
alaskadrifter
Landing gear operator
How is flying a 180hp Carbon Cub by CubCrafters without a medical any different than flying a 150 or 172?
tlewis95
I drive planes
Or a glider, LSA, or hot air balloon?
Even someone denied a medical can go out the next day and give rides/teach the public in hot air balloons or gliders. As far as medicals are concerned, how does an O200 on the nose change things so much?
🦈💜
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Well, you aren't qualified to definitely say that she did not see you or that the next brace was in fact preventing her from making full neck rotation. Also of note is the fact that the brace she wore is not something only old people wore. Your reasoning is flawed because you haven't shown anything to indicate that age was a factor in this case. Correlation is not always causation especially when you can't attribute a dataset to just one demography.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Vector said:
I can see. She couldn't move her head.
Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
Have you ever worn a neck brace? The point of a neck brace is to limit full neck rotation. Jeez.....
And as for the medical exemption legislation....every time my job brings me to an uncontrolled airport on a VFR weekend day, my position against this whole medical exemption thing gets even stronger. The only thing worse than an incompetent weekend warrior, is a medically unfit weekend warrior.
Pilot Fighter
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At some fields, I'm more concerned about ultralights.
Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
I've seen ultralights do some pretty stupid things. Granted, both occasions were with my previous job flying blimps.
Yeap, I have worn one before and I could rotate my head albeit without moving my neck which is the whole point.
Monk
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Well she won't be getting my check now.
Sapper
Well-Known Member
I'm 38, so not an old codger just yet, and I support this legislation. Medicals are still required for commercial aviation, and apparently anything larger than 6000lbs. As far as pilots not having a medical being more dangerous than pilots who do, you are more likely to have an accident in your car driving to the little airport than be involved in an accident with a pilot in an airplane with out a medical. Further, I would think that this will make aviation safer in some ways as pilots who are flying anyway (ie, pilots who do not have their 3rd class medical and continue to fly) will now be more likely to comply with biannual flight reviews and continuing aviation education, where they might have been holding off on that specifically because they feared being caught previously.
I tend to put a lot of faith in the ability of the individual pilot to make a judgment call on whether they are safe or not to fly. If someone thinks that having a medical certificate some how keeps a pilot wearing a neck brace (or any other illness or injury) from acting as the sole manipulator of the controls, he is sadly mistaken. It is the pilots judgment which keeps him or her from flying.
I tend to put a lot of faith in the ability of the individual pilot to make a judgment call on whether they are safe or not to fly. If someone thinks that having a medical certificate some how keeps a pilot wearing a neck brace (or any other illness or injury) from acting as the sole manipulator of the controls, he is sadly mistaken. It is the pilots judgment which keeps him or her from flying.
Mark815
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This so much. Please, please can we pass new driver licensing rules? I think it's absolute crap that there's only 1 driving "test" (Seriously, for mine I drove around the block and parked) administered in a persons life. I think once a person hits the 60-65 age range they need to go through further tests to prove they can safely operate a vehicle, and it should occur every 2 or 3 years.
Somebody kills an innocent person with a gun and the country goes crazy, meanwhile grandma plows over a bunch of kids because she confused the gas and brake and nobody says a peep.
Yeah, and that number is insane. Instead of saying "Well 33k+ people die a year in auto accidents, so who cares" we should be trying to become more restrictive and reduce the number of deaths.