"CREW" on badges

Does your airline have "Crew" written on their dispatcher badges?

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smkatc

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My old airline had "CREW" written on their badges which made it less of a hassle to get through TSA when traveling or jump seating.

I am trying to make a case with our flight ops department that would allow "CREW" to be written on our badges. I was wondering if you guys could post who does, and who doesn't have "CREW" written on their airlines dispatcher badges.

Thanks!
 
The issue runs a little deeper then just a companies unwillingness to print "crew" on your badge. Los Federales has a little bit of swing on these things as well.
 
Endeavor Airlines has CREW on the company ID's for dispatchers. It's something that you'll have to pitch to your corporate security and to the FSDO.
 
Brett Spurgeon said:
Endeavor Airlines has CREW on the company ID's for dispatchers. It's something that you'll have to pitch to your corporate security and to the FSDO.
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I'd be interested in learning exactly what someone said to them to get it done... Nicely written proposal or wine and dine situation aka Lobbying...
 
Since we aren't flight crew, seems to me, the only chance you have is a very lenient or indifferent fsdo
 
We have operational control of the flight along with the Captain, not to mention we are required by regulations to ride in the cockpit jumpseat annually. Don't really see why Dispatcher's shouldn't have CREW on their badges.
 
Rogo said:
We have operational control of the flight along with the Captain, not to mention we are required by regulations to ride in the cockpit jumpseat annually. Don't really see why Dispatcher's shouldn't have CREW on their badges.
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Flight Attendants don't have any operational control at are but are LEGITIMATELY required flight crew... Having Operational Control is not the same as being a required and/or essential crewmember.
 
Western Global actually has CREW on our badges as well. Not sure why but surely didn't ask to change it. Especially now that we are in CASS.
 
For ad-hoc international carriers I can see it, since you don't want to run into issues trying to get through customs with the rest of the crew. For a domestic operation I can see both sides of the argument, but "we have operational control" isn't one of those. The only advantage I can see domestically for you to have "crew" on your badges is to navigate TSA, which honestly 9 times out of 10 isn't a significant problem. To get that on your badge you have to convince the FSDO and, for all intents and purposes a pilot group that doesn't want you to have it. Quite an uphill battle to fight for a notation on your badge that changes nothing about your rights or responsibilities.
 
Back in the day, my first dispatch gig did not have "CREW" on the badges. We did have our job titles on them (ie Dispatcher) and were not CASS (maybe prior to CASS really coming online). But we mad the company put something on our badges to identify us as dispatchers. This was easy to convince the powers that be since there had been some occurrences where some one not covered by the dispatch license (or even pilot license) but were airline employees had made it on flights as jumpseaters (not int he cockpit though).

Next carrier, also not a CASS carrier, we had "CREW" then lost it. According to the VP ground ops, it was a TSA demanded change. Again, the dispatch group (and the loadmasters... since they too lost the "CREW" form their badges) got soething added to our badges to identify us as being of the group that can jumpseat.

Current carrier, we did not (did have "flight dispatch" on the badges) .. then one day we all got new ID's and the "CREW" was on there. I guess the policy had changed. Whatever the reason it's back... it's much handier for a commuter, especially if you don't work for large network carrier or subs.
 
McCrosky said:
Next carrier, also not a CASS carrier, we had "CREW" then lost it. According to the VP ground ops, it was a TSA demanded change. Again, the dispatch group (and the loadmasters... since they too lost the "CREW" form their badges) got soething added to our badges to identify us as being of the group that can jumpseat
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There's the rationale for asking that CREW, or at least DISPATCHER, on your badges; to identify yourselves as someone who with flight deck access.
 
BoilerOps said:
Flight Attendants don't have any operational control at are but are LEGITIMATELY required flight crew... Having Operational Control is not the same as being a required and/or essential crewmember.
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pljenkins said:
For ad-hoc international carriers I can see it, since you don't want to run into issues trying to get through customs with the rest of the crew. For a domestic operation I can see both sides of the argument, but "we have operational control" isn't one of those. The only advantage I can see domestically for you to have "crew" on your badges is to navigate TSA, which honestly 9 times out of 10 isn't a significant problem. To get that on your badge you have to convince the FSDO and, for all intents and purposes a pilot group that doesn't want you to have it. Quite an uphill battle to fight for a notation on your badge that changes nothing about your rights or responsibilities.
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In addition, when I occupy that flight deck jumpseat whether for my annual ride or commuting, I am considered an "additional crewmember". Our QRH's reflect that as well.
 
Clrd2land said:
I believe that F9 does, or they did when I was there some years ago.
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Well they didn't have while I was there, 2006-2012'


Actually the one thing that I would really prefer over having "crew" on my badge is to have the IRS consider us a crew member. That way you would get taxed in the state you live versus the one you work in.
 
Jumpseating, I haven't been treated any less than any other crewmember. Not sure having "Crew" on a badge matters much especially if one has TSA Pre Check (seriously, if you don't have it, totally get it - best 85 bucks ever).
 
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