Hawker 800A/800SP, 800XP & 850XP Runway Performance

[mad2fly]

My boss has tasked me with finding out runway performance for these aircraft. The main question would be what are max takeoff weight would be from the home airport.

300' MSL
RW 27 5200' availible for takeoff
RW 09 4800' availible for takeoff

The temperature through the year varies between -5C and at most +20C. We also get a lot of rain so wet runways often are the case. If anyone could help me out with the numbers or guidance as to where I could get the charts I'd be grateful. Thanks in advance.

 

[Crockrocket94]

I don't have any 800/850 books with me, but ask @DPApilot, he may.

I can tell you the 850 will be the best performer of the group. We routinely take our 900 from those kind of strips with nearly a full boat, but the 900 beats the heck out of the 800s.

 

[mad2fly]

I don't have any 800/850 books with me, but ask @DPApilot, he may. I can tell you the 850 will be the best performer of the group. We routinely take our 900 from those kind of strips with nearly a full boat, but the 900 beats the heck out of the 800s.

Thank you for your reply. I'll pass that on and wait to see if @DPApilot or anyone else can give specifics.

 

[mikecweb]

You won't get wet numbers to work on a field that short
800XP

 

[mad2fly]

You won't get wet numbers to work on a field that short
800XP

Thank you very much for this. Do you know if there is much difference between these numbers and the 800A and 850XP?

 

[mikecweb]

Thank you very much for this. Do you know if there is much difference between these numbers and the 800A and 850XP?

850 has better engines I believe so that may help the numbers some.

 

[mad2fly]

This is all great information. It is filling in the boxes and I really appreciate it. If I could get the numbers for the 800A and the 850XP I'll be able to go back to the boss with the complete picture.

If someone just wanted to send some runway performance pages for the 800A and the 850XP that would work too. I don't expect others to do all the work.

Thanks again.

 

[Groundpounder]

If you give me a specific airport, I can send you the APG info for the 800A and 800XP.

 

[mad2fly]

If you give me a specific airport, I can send you the APG info for the 800A and 800XP.

That would be great. It is EGJB. I was hoping to give the boss a variety of possible scenarios like different winds, temps and runway contamination. Thank you.

 

[Groundpounder]

That would be great. It is EGJB. I was hoping to give the boss a variety of possible scenarios like different winds, temps and runway contamination. Thank you.

No prob. PM me your e-mail address.

 

[Crockrocket94]

I think the 850 has the same engines as the 800xp, just winglets and a proline 21 inside.

 

[mad2fly]

Thank you all for your input especially Mikecweb and Groundpounder. I think I have everything I need for now. Again, what a great site and what a great group of people.

 

[DPApilot]

I see @mikecweb already hit up the 800XP numbers. I don't have 850 numbers, but I should be able to pull 800A numbers for you if still needed.

 

[mad2fly]

I see @mikecweb already hit up the 800XP numbers. I don't have 850 numbers, but I should be able to pull 800A numbers for you if still needed.

Thank you for the offer. Groundpounder sent me a break down of varying temperatures for both runways from our home airport for the 800A and 800XP. It also contained corrections for winds and pressure deviations from standard. I also managed to source the same breakdown for the 850XP.

So, I am set for now.

 

[bucksmith]

I see @mikecweb already hit up the 800XP numbers. I don't have 850 numbers, but I should be able to pull 800A numbers for you if still needed.

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