135 jobs looking for for non-typed FO's

terdferg23

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When a company is looking for a non-typed FO's is that a sign of bad things to come? Not sure why a company operating a mid-size jet would specifically be looking for un- typed guys to bring in, except low pay.
 
When a company is looking for a non-typed FO's is that a sign of bad things to come? Not sure why a company operating a mid-size jet would specifically be looking for un- typed guys to bring in, except low pay.

Yeah, that doesn't sound good to me. I wouldn't be surprised if working conditions were sub-optimal because they are looking for a time builder/seat filler.
 
I know a DO that recently hired a 1000hr pilot, no jet time and sent him to school for their part 91 large cabin class aircraft. No shenanigans with pay or contract. They just wanted a low time guy to learn their ways, without any bad habits. It's a nice airplane, with nice owners and great management.

It was a great deal from an old school straight shooter.
 
That would be nice. I thought for sure I had my foot in the door only to be over looked because someone came in with the type.
 
That would be nice. I thought for sure I had my foot in the door only to be over looked because someone came in with the type.
It's so stupid. You still have to go to initial. The only difference between a typed guy and non-typed is the checkride at the end is for a rating for you and a PC for him, but they're still the exact same ride, with the same training required to take it. Not a penny saved.
 
It's so stupid. You still have to go to initial. The only difference between a typed guy and non-typed is the checkride at the end is for a rating for you and a PC for him, but they're still the exact same ride, with the same training required to take it. Not a penny saved.

This. That's a thing most 135 operators over look. No matter what you have you still have to go to school for the operator, but I digress. I was hired into a 135 on the Lear with 1k TT no type. The pay is on par with the industry and the QOL is great (especially for a charter outfit). I think the advantage of low time guys like I was is that they can teach positive habits before you are set in your ways.

Derek
 
It's so stupid. You still have to go to initial. The only difference between a typed guy and non-typed is the checkride at the end is for a rating for you and a PC for him, but they're still the exact same ride, with the same training required to take it. Not a penny saved.
That isn't exactly true. Some 135 have approved in house training courses for guys who already hold a type.
 
That isn't exactly true. Some 135 have approved in house training courses for guys who already hold a type.
But you still have to do indoc, then go fly the airplane around to get proficient again and then a 293,297,299 ride. Unless you were talking someone right out of the left seat of the same airplane at another operator you'll spend what FSI initial costs in flying the airplane around for 5-10 hours to get a sat checkride.
 
Actually, you can put someone that is already typed in the aircraft through recurrent training instead of initial in many cases, and that does cost less money.
Another thing that comes in to play are the groups like ARGUS, Wyvern, etc... most operators seem to want to play their game so they want the type, and time in type.
 
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