Fedex

TaxiBack said:
Hey Mach82, you say the FedEx listing was an internal posting.....I thought that meant internal as in for the folks that already work there? As in "internal eyes only" , correct? So do you already work there? Or can someone internal share the listing with someone External?

I thought you work at Spirit? You posted over on the Spirit thread about "we are getting" more aircraft....etc...
Im sooo confused.
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Internal posting is for internal employees. "Promote from within."

Yes I already work there.

I could share it with an external candidate but don't expect to be getting selected. Potential HR nightmare.

I do work at NKS.
 
I have heard many people getting on at FedEx who dispatched for another carrier and also worked part time for FedEx. I heard of several Pinnacle dispatchers that got on there that way, back when the Pinnacle dispatch office was located in MEM.
 
Would working for Fedex office
for example still be considered internal or is it just Fedex Express
that is considered internal
 
Wolfman14 said:
Would working for Fedex office
for example still be considered internal or is it just Fedex Express
that is considered internal
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Fedex office is a completely different OpCo. You have to work for Express to apply for an internal position at FedEx Express.
 
of course! The old. "im a dispatcher who tosses boxes" trick! I love it. i live 2 miles for the gia-normous FedEx center here at OAK and the thought has crossed my mind. Probably make more than the current 135 gig im in...But not as much fun and might involve sweat! Not for me. And my hands are silky smooth too. Dont need cardboard burn.
 
I'm not a fan of the "get-hired-to-throw-boxes-on-the-ramp-in-hopes-of-transferring-to-dispatch" strategy. To each his own, but it's putting all your eggs in one basket. How long do you give it? A year? Five? 10? The longer you wait, the harder it becomes to leave, because in the back of your mind you're thinking "I've got so many years invested, I can't leave now."

I'm also not a fan of hiring internal candidates (or any candidates) with no experience. I don't see how a dispatcher with no experience can effectively relate to a flight crew with 30 years combined experience. You're not on the same level.
 
Phil Schuyler said:
I'm not a fan of the "get-hired-to-throw-boxes-on-the-ramp-in-hopes-of-transferring-to-dispatch" strategy. To each his own, but it's putting all your eggs in one basket. How long do you give it? A year? Five? 10? The longer you wait, the harder it becomes to leave, because in the back of your mind you're thinking "I've got so many years invested, I can't leave now."

I'm also not a fan of hiring internal candidates (or any candidates) with no experience. I don't see how a dispatcher with no experience can effectively relate to a flight crew with 30 years combined experience. You're not on the same level.
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I agree with you. However, being internal didn't guarantee me the job. I still had to meet minimum qualifications to get a possible interview and then do well in the interview.

I originally joined FX for other career aspirations, but as those fell through I stayed because it was another paycheck for student loans and benefits. Timing just happened to work in my favor.
 
I've worked at FX - the weekly bid packet would show all jobs whether GOC or in a station. Usually, also depending on the manager of the station, your eligible to transfer to GOC after 6 months if you meet the qualifications.
 
Phil Schuyler said:
I'm not a fan of the "get-hired-to-throw-boxes-on-the-ramp-in-hopes-of-transferring-to-dispatch" strategy. To each his own, but it's putting all your eggs in one basket. How long do you give it? A year? Five? 10? The longer you wait, the harder it becomes to leave, because in the back of your mind you're thinking "I've got so many years invested, I can't leave now."

I'm also not a fan of hiring internal candidates (or any candidates) with no experience. I don't see how a dispatcher with no experience can effectively relate to a flight crew with 30 years combined experience. You're not on the same level.
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Totally agree.
I'm still puzzled that we have hired so many internals, as if any amount of time on the ramp, or in scheduling, etc. would ever equal even 1 year of actual 121 dispatch experience.
Pilot hiring at the majors is based on experience; why shouldn't dispatch hiring also be based on experience?
 
#1FMS said:
Totally agree.
I'm still puzzled that we have hired so many internals, as if any amount of time on the ramp, or in scheduling, etc. would ever equal even 1 year of actual 121 dispatch experience.
Pilot hiring at the majors is based on experience; why shouldn't dispatch hiring also be based on experience?
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It really depends on the applicant. I know at America West, due to one person they hired from the ramp with no dispatch experience who failed to get signed off, they put a moratorium on ANYONE that didn't have at least a year of dispatch experience....thus preventing some quality internal candidates who worked in the office already (doing aircraft routing, etc.) who would probably have become great dispatchers from being hired there without leaving the company and working for a regional first. As a former external dispatcher candidate to a major airline who now works at one, I don't think that it should be "internals only" by any means...but I think there is a healthy balance that can be struck between hiring people who have experience at regional or supplemental carriers and people already working for the airline that got their license, are good employees, and are willing to work hard in order to "move up" within the company. Just my two cents.
 
Is UPS like Fedex in some sense? Can one throw boxes at UPS and move up into dispatch after so many months (years)?
 
I started out as a handler for Fedex, worked there for about 7 years and eventually getting a ramp agent gig. Back then, they were known to hire with no experience into GOC if you had a license. So, I went to get my license and FDX was nice enough to pay for it (tuition reimbursement). That was June 2001. We all know what happened in September and that pretty mnuch stopped their plans for hiring/expansion for while. I did get a dispatcher gig with a local supplemental and worked both for a few months before I threw in the towel at FDX. When I left they were only hiring internal to the Air Ops department.

We did have several guys from my ramp crew get in at GOC, but all were current Valujet dispatchers... and most left Fedex for Delta a couple years later.

UPS is a different beast. While in the past they have hired line dispatchers from within the company who had no experience, that hasn't happened in 8 years, and before her it had been years. So since then it's been all external hires with minimum of 3-5 years experience... usually international heavy experience. In the last 10 years (can't speak to prior... pre union it was all different), there's not been any kind of "internal only" postings like FDX would do. If you worked for UPS box throwing and met the hiring requirements, you went through the same process as an external hire.

On the other hand, if you are are interested in a supervisor position and have no experience, they will hire you into that. There's no movement from the line dispatchers into management... for a reason... and they have to fill them some how.

As far as experience. At some point you have to be hired without experience, might as well be a major right? But not the way it happens for most. SO experience can be very helpful in a career, but we have some of our more experienced dispatchers who... well frankly it's like it's their first day every day. Experience in other areas that require good time management skills, attention to detail, and critical thinking in pressure situations should be a consideration. But that's hard to measure and post for.
 
There probably will not be an external job posting for awhile as there are alot of internal candidates that can fill domestic positions. If I hear of any external postings, I will let this forum know.
 
Thanks for the update gents. Hey , so why do you, PlaneFan and Mach have the same last name? 82?
Am I missing something?
Is mach ,82 the point where lateral dissociative retention starts to affect
both the coefficient of dynamic inversion and the static cohesive apex? I read that in SkyMall.
 
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