Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Does it have cup holders? Sweet.
DAL Widebody RFP....
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Dan208B
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NRT is already drawn down most of the way. There are still flights out of there to places like Guam, Saipan, Palau, and Singapore, all of which may not have much of a market from Seattle (and Singapore may be too far). Not sure what their long-term plans are with these routes but it's a very unique opportunity to have the route authority to do so. They may think it's a hassle to have smaller airplanes out there long term and they may decide it's of value keep those routes as I understand they do fairly well. Many of those flights and HNL-Westbound flights go to Osaka and Nagoya as well.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
It remains to be seen if they can repeat it though.I can think of one other one off the top of my head....
Seggy
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I am sure the other two will be able to as well quarter after quarter.
SmoothLanderJ
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Seggy said:
Watch out now! Sheesh its tough around here. .
Maximilian_Jenius
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Cptnchia
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Minuteman
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Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
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Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
You guys are supposed to get the Airbus order when? Between 2017-2019?
It's an order of fifty planes. Will fifty planes be enough, to totally fulfill Delta's future wide body goals? They have eighteen 9's on back order. Those may or may not ever see the light of day. But realistically, do you, @Trip7 or anyone foresee 787-9's at Delta in the very distant future?
Also what about the 787-10. It's slots will be wide open. There's still a good chance of seeing 787's at Delta. I'd think.
H46Bubba
Well-Known Member
Yeah I was was talkting with SEA chief pilot today in a meeting, and he said the new aircraft will probably go really senior especially the A350 which will probably be based on west coast (LAX and SEA)
A350's will start arriving spring 2017 and the A330neo will start arriving in 2019 if I remeber right.
Southernjets and Boeing aren't on the best of terms tight now thanks to the whole Ex-I'm bank deal playing out right now. Boeing didn't want to agree to Sourhernjets' counter price offers. Airbus is a pain to deal with in terms of support but they do give good pricing deals on aircraft and the initial spare parts compliment.
Trip7
Well-Known Member
Never say never, but at this point I doubt it. I agree with some that believe the order will be converted to Narrow-bodies
Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
As for the 787 I still don't believe Southernjets sees it working in their fleet as things stand right now. They've stated in the past that they can extract data on the 787 from their stake in Aero Mexico. Furthermore, with a sizeable 320 and 330 fleet in place, Airbus has a significant cost advantage over Boeing from a parts (and perhaps training) position. One thing Airbus does very well is overlap aircraft types in a variety of ways. Much more so than Boeing. I never saw us making a significant 777 order after listening to management's statements. If we went with a completely new airframe my guess was the 350. It just made a lot more sense. If you go back and read the statements made over the last 2 years they are remarkably candid in hindsight.
That's not a statement on the aircraft themselves just my perception on what fits best. Take another carrier line UAL and you have a totally different scenario for a whole host of reasons. Just because a fleet program is different, even significantly so, doesn't mean it is wrong or that only one will be successful.
That's not a statement on the aircraft themselves just my perception on what fits best. Take another carrier line UAL and you have a totally different scenario for a whole host of reasons. Just because a fleet program is different, even significantly so, doesn't mean it is wrong or that only one will be successful.
pianokeys
MEL NO MUFFS
I think DL did "miss the boat" on the 77W per se. With ten abreast, the 77W can be a cash cow people mover. Buuut then again, look at DLs fleet. Mostly medium capacity long range aircraft like the 767 and A330. So perhaps their product is to move people more times a day with medium capacity equipment as opposed to moving people less times a day with larger capacity planes.
Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
It's not completely about numbers of seats. It's about range. Their philosophy has been consistent. Fly the aircraft to the max extent of its range or at least very nearly so. With a route structure that has hubs all over the continental US, a 777 flying to destinations mostly in Europe and S. America is under flying its range. Yes there is an Asia operation but the frequency as you pointed out is much less requiring larger aircraft but less aircraft in total. Thus that sector of the fleet need not be very large. Why dump a ton of capacity on your routes? Why restrict your flexibility to shuffle the aircraft throughout the system? The 330 and to a lesser extent the 767-300ER work in every Southernjets hub to just about every intl destination from those hubs. The 777/744 works in a couple hubs to a couple destinations. Huge difference.
Take a large foreign airline with ONE major hub in say CDG, FRA, or AMS with a worldwide route structure and all of a sudden a significant number of very large ultra long haul widebodies makes a lot of sense.
PeanuckleCRJ
Poodle Wrangler
For good reason. Battery fires and outsourcing fiascos are not what we look for in planes.