Food at ATL

MikeD said:
No. Captain (PIC) is the final authority. If you don't have what you'd consider enough contingency fuel, then that's on you as Captain. You know what you're taking off with, and should know what that leaves you with for contingencies. If you as Captain don't like that, then order more fuel before departing. But don't get airborne, then discover you don't have what you think is enough, and try to blame someone else for it. That's a candyass move.

Not only is PIC the final authority, he/she is the one who signs for the aircraft, therefore he/she is the one on the blame line. You want Captain authority? Then also accept the responsibility that comes with it.
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ATN_Pilot said:
The issue is that you don't have a flippin' clue what you're talking about. No one is "going to" cost index flying. We've already been there for decades. You just don't know it, because apparently your company hasn't been doing it. Regardless, it isn't going to make much of a difference as long as your company gives you at least a little bit of contingency fuel. I flew standups for years. We always flew barber pole every flight, despite being flight planned at CI30. Never had an issue, because we carry contingency fuel like any responsible airline. Never even got close to the 45 minute reserve (which you're allowed to use, by the way).
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Good grief is that the issue???
I was out of the aiine flying for about 10 years due to military flying so yeah, it is relatively new to me. The issue is that it is not new???? Seriously????

Yes, airlines sometimes carry more contingency fuel... If loads permit. I think most airlines would have an issue if pax were bumped "just because I want more gas" and not due to operational considerations.

I have seen a larger aircraft run into an issue, not with the fact that they did not use CI flying, but the contingency fuel based upon CI burn was not that much and they diverted after a few turns in hold. If they had not used CI flying it probably would have been a bigger issue.

This is ridiculous. The original post in this threads hat I responded to was someone complaining that some airlines were sandbagging and flying too slow. My response was that they were flying what was planned. Is there really an issue with that or are we getting into "you're just an RJ pilot and we've been doing that for a while" or "We've really been doing this for a while little man"???
Again, the fuel may not be an issue. But if you are planned at 8000 lbs/hour and say screw it, I'm flying at a speed that burns 9000 lbs/hour (just pulling numbers out of the air), it can make a difference over a four hour flight. I don't care if we call it CI flying or numb but flying.
Or is there some kind of flight planning I'm not aware of?? Again, every aircraft I have flown from small pistons, to large helicopters, to teeny tiny RJs it's the same thing- if you don't fly the plan you had better watch your gas.
 
Blackhawk said:
Or is there some kind of flight planning I'm not aware of?? Again, every aircraft I have flown from small pistons, to large helicopters, to teeny tiny RJs it's the same thing- if you don't fly the plan you had better watch your gas.
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I've worked for three (four?) airlines, and at none of them, including cheap-ass Pinnacle, planned with so little gas that it would be an issue if you flew faster than plan speed. I think you're overestimating how much extra fuel you burn. For example, in the CRJ-200, flying 310 indicated instead of 290 indicated over two hours (a pretty long flight in an RJ) would result in an extra 800 lb fuel burn. If memory serves, we usually carried about 1,200 in contingency fuel and another 1,400 in reserve for a cushion of 2,600 lbs in extra fuel. If you're puckering up at 2,600 lbs of extra gas in an RJ, then you might need to have your man card revoked.





Oh, and Whataburger (and everything else in Tex-ass) sucks. @Seggy
 
Cptnchia said:
New guys to the party always think they're on the cutting edge. I wonder how the concept of "Tactical Cost Index" will jibe. That's what we fly now. We get a target landing time window and adjust CI +/- from the initial planned number once airborne to land in the window.
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Surejet just started doing that. It's actually rather creepy how accurate it is. The first day, two of our three legs were exactly on scheduled block. I think the last one was extremely close.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
I've worked for three (four?) airlines, and at none of them, including cheap-ass Pinnacle, planned with so little gas that it would be an issue if you flew faster than plan speed. I think you're overestimating how much extra fuel you burn. For example, in the CRJ-200, flying 310 indicated instead of 290 indicated over two hours (a pretty long flight in an RJ) would result in an extra 800 lb fuel burn. If memory serves, we usually carried about 1,200 in contingency fuel and another 1,400 in reserve for a cushion of 2,600 lbs in extra fuel. If you're puckering up at 2,600 lbs of extra gas in an RJ, then you might need to have your man card revoked.





Oh, and Whataburger (and everything else in Tex-ass) sucks. @Seggy
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Take that back about Whataburger....
 
RobertB said:
Best part is we don't have the staffing to take it during the day so we give it back early every afternoon!
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Priceless..................boy do I miss the FFA.......................................................................................NOT
 
queeno said:
Priceless..................boy do I miss the FFA.......................................................................................NOT
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Try running the numbers needed everyday, but you only have 20% more people than your daily required amount to fill them with in the building (plus 4 developmentals who work something other than data)... Then take 20% of the "extra" CPCs you have and pull them off the boards to TMU since that's über important. Hell, it's going to be hard to flow if there's no one working a position to flow to! Doesn't really work too well...
 
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Blackhawk said:
For free stuff don't forget USO, though at ATL it is on the other side of security.
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MikeD said:
LAX has one of the best USOs
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T-Gates said:
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Here's the thing, I'm a contractor, some are welcoming, some hate us. Same goes for while deployed, and the USO can make a huge difference in QOL.

Secondly, OMG, I can't even, that is so HOT, and that burrito is making me giddy like a white chick for pumpkin spice latte at Starbucks. I figured out my max time away from texmex, and it's less time that I've been here for.
 
scooter2525 said:
I'm disappointed that @ATN_Pilot didn't say Five Guys.

Of course OP wants to not be glued to a toilet....
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Well, I have a mix. Usually when I hit Kuwait or UAE, the first true food I have gets everything out, so I then have some space. That being said, I've been eating healthier, a big burger is kinda eh for me at the moment, but there is a very special place for morning burritos. So far I've had 2 bad breakfasts at ATL on the way through and had very good meals at IAD. I'd like to make this meal good at ATL next time I go through. We are talking somewhere between 7 and 9 am though, I doubt Five Guys is open.
 
ProudPilot said:
I'd like to make this meal good at ATL next time I go through. We are talking somewhere between 7 and 9 am though...
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I used to get the Breakfast Sub at Charley's (A13 I think) with Swiss and extra Vegetables on a regular basis.

There's always Chick-Fil-A.
 
WMostellar said:
I used to get the Breakfast Sub at Charley's (A13 I think) with Swiss and extra Vegetables on a regular basis.

There's always Chick-Fil-A.
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I would destroy 4 Chicken Breakfast Burritos from Chick-Fil-A, they started my breakfast burrito addiction. Alas, they do not sell them at ATL. Hence I was looking for alternatives, and there are some very good options presented. Now I get a month or so to look it over. Hopefully I'll know when I'm going through here in a few days.
 
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