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Maximillian_Jenius said:
I was more talking about this comment that you made, is this good or bad?
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It's very McDonnell-Douglas-y. Something that perhaps didn't really need to be that complex but has those extra factors added in. I found the multitude of flaps settings on the 737NG annoying. But hey, if they are using those to add to the performance of the plane- let's see it.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
It's very McDonnell-Douglas-y. Something that perhaps didn't really need to be that complex but has those extra factors added in. I found the multitude of flaps settings on the 737NG annoying. But hey, if they are using those to add to the performance of the plane- let's see it.
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Exactly - Dial-a-Flap anyone?

It can have takeoff performance benefits though. Hoping to get in a performance course soon so I can found out more. Still don't have an FCOM update with the -9 performance in it.


TP
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Seriously... no Airbus hate. But the A350 demo was boring as hell!
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It was neat seeing an airliner do that, same with the 789- the 789 def had the more edgy demo this year.

No airline business people go "oh, well I was thinking about buying McBussyAir, but wow that B-6969 did about 5 more degrees of bank angle in that turn- I'm buying that no matter the cost!"

The demos are for the crowd. The airlines buy the planes via strict cost management.
 
typhoonpilot said:
Exactly - Dial-a-Flap anyone?

It can have takeoff performance benefits though. Hoping to get in a performance course soon so I can found out more. Still don't have an FCOM update with the -9 performance in it.


TP
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That's the truth. Boeing appears to be run by Douglas types these days anyways.

It would be interesting to see the benefits of these added flaps settings. McD has 9000 flaps settings, so does the FLUF (737).. Boeing limits theirs on the later models. Airbus limits more. Boeings now says "hey look, lots more flaps settings, this is better."

I do think we should probably have a couple more notches on the bus....
 
jtrain609 said:
I'm not positive of that, either. The E-Jet autothrottles can still get you into trouble, and if you disconnect them, then you (obviously) get zero protections. Is it hard to stall an E-Jet? Yup. Is it impossible to get yourself into trouble? Not in the least.
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You'll find you really have to "monitor/override" the throttles during a VNAV descent also during windy conditions on final.
Climb-out also. The ORD departure where you level off at 5-6000, in FLCH it will overspeed 250 in a heart beat. Best way to protect yourself is to switch to V/S about 1000 below ALT. It will capture the climb rate in FLCH and match the V/S.

She will overspeed you in a hurry if you aren't paying attention.
 
I have time in both the Airbus A320 Series and Boeing 737 Series.

IMHO while the Airbus has a far more comfortable cockpit, the automation and 'feel' of the aircraft is far superior in the Boeing. I enjoy flying the 737 a lot more than I ever did the Airbus. That said, I wouldn't have a problem flying the Airbus again for money/QOL purposes.

Also, I rode last week for the first time on the 787. I'm not one to drool over airplanes but WOW!!!!!!! Boeing hit it out of the park with it and I am REALLY happy my place has a ton of orders for them. That aircraft really does change things in the global airline world.
 
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PeanuckleCRJ said:
It was neat seeing an airliner do that, same with the 789- the 789 def had the more edgy demo this year.

No airline business people go "oh, well I was thinking about buying McBussyAir, but wow that B-6969 did about 5 more degrees of bank angle in that turn- I'm buying that no matter the cost!"

The demos are for the crowd. The airlines buy the planes via strict cost management.
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Yeah, I was speaking as a spectator. Hell the A380 demo was more exciting...
 
jtrain609 said:
I'm not positive of that, either. The E-Jet autothrottles can still get you into trouble, and if you disconnect them, then you (obviously) get zero protections. Is it hard to stall an E-Jet? Yup. Is it impossible to get yourself into trouble? Not in the least.
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What you say is absolutely true, but I think Embraer took that into account with their training modules and manuals. I merely pointed out that they took the best philosophies from the big boys and integrated them.
 
Nark said:
Climb-out also. The ORD departure where you level off at 5-6000, in FLCH it will overspeed 250 in a heart beat. Best way to protect yourself is to switch to V/S about 1000 below ALT. It will capture the climb rate in FLCH and match the V/S.

She will overspeed you in a hurry if you aren't paying attention.
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Really? What we've done is hold off on the clean up and autopilot until we're sure we can clear the 5nm restriction, then we start the climb sequence and we really don't activate the autopilot until the climb out above 5,000. Your approach to this is interesting though.
 
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