United 777 HNL-GUM fire in the cockpit, diverts to Midway

as I will literally go take a dump, wipe, come back to my laptop

TMI and next time wash your hands.

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I admit I'm no ops specialist, but why return the passengers to HI rather than deliver them to their destination?
My guess in this case is they did what really made sense (logistically route and time wise) and the poor pax who after being delayed for several hours at the beginning of the flight at HNL, plus there was some time in the air burning off fuel before they landed at Midway apparently, then they were stuck at Midway for 7 hours, probably needed a break. I imagine they were pretty worn out having been up a long damn time by now, needing some real food, a shower and some sleep by the time they were taken back to HNL. I think I read somewhere there were 335 pax. I have no idea how many kids or seniors were on board either, but it's a bit of nightmare for everyone and I imagine they were rather stressed out from the emergency event, frazzled and tired. United did book hotel rooms for them, gave them flight vouchers and made an off schedule flight just for them, which left early this afternoon HNL time. It's a happy thing at this point that everyone is at least safe.
 
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Wow, that was hilarious. The Pipe never lets me down. I had no clue PP was a pilot at a regional.
He's had two user names on that forum (the first one was banned) and he first claimed he was a pilot for UPS, but since then he's also claimed to be at three other carriers and yet today claimed he was going to the open house at Ameriflight.
 
He's had two user names on that forum (the first one was banned) and he first claimed he was a pilot for UPS, but since then he's also claimed to be at three other carriers and yet today claimed he was going to the open house at Ameriflight.

JC seems to get a few of these a year. I know they are annoying but from time to time, equally entertaining as well.
 
You're on quite the roll......
07-03-2014 06:05 PM #33
Proud Pilot
Maybe for you. But for me, due to my lifestyle, I'm confident that I will be brought to the top of the application stack and fast tracked to the mainline of my choice.

http://www.expressjetpilots.com/the-pipe/showthread.php?54158-United-FFDC-Open-Houses/page4

And to think that I can BARELY get someone on the phone to have a conversation about a job 3 mos after getting canned for something that happened 18 and 20 years ago. I hope I never meet this "Proud Pilot". I'd like to kick his ass up and down all 13,401 feet of DFW's runways (AA's base after-all) for being so arrogant.
 
I hope I never meet this "Proud Pilot". I'd like to kick his ass up and down all 13,401 feet of DFW's runways (AA's base after-all) for being so arrogant.

Sounds like you may frequent different bars?
 
I admit I'm no ops specialist, but why return the passengers to HI rather than deliver them to their destination?

We had a Tropical Storm hitting Guam around that time, which might explain sending the pax back to HNL. It was forecast to be worse than it was. Several flights were cancelled because of it.
 
Interesting to see if there's a potential Malaysian link to the sequence of events

I happened to mention that to the wife just last night. Not exactly in those words, but more as, "Interesting that it's the same model aircraft as Malaysia 370," kind of thing.

Of course most everyone is going to be looking for even the remotest connection to Malaysia 370 after any incident involving a 777 for a very long while.
 
Interesting to see if there's a potential Malaysian link to the sequence of events

I happened to mention that to the wife just last night. Not exactly in those words, but more as, "Interesting that it's the same model aircraft as Malaysia 370," kind of thing.

Of course most everyone is going to be looking for even the remotest connection to Malaysia 370 after any incident involving a 777 for a very long while.

Dang. Where is Qutch when you need him?
 
Back when United had that ELMS P200 fire at Heathrow in 2007 the AAIB issued six safety recommendations. It is not widely known what prompted the report of smoke in this recent diversion to Midway, but it will be interesting to see what role these items played in the diversion (including the software revision to improve crew information):

  1. Safety Recommendation 2009-021: Boeing Commercial Airplanes should consider implementing differential current fault protection of main power contactors when designing future electrical systems.
  2. Safety Recommendation 2009-022: The Federal Aviation Administration, in conjunction with the European Aviation Safety Agency, should consider mandating the replacement of ELM 827-1 contactors with ELM 827-3 contactors on all Boeing 777 aircraft, to reduce the risk of a contactor breakdown that results in uncontained hot debris.
  3. Safety Recommendation 2009-023: Tyco Electronics Corporation should introduce mitigating action to reduce the risk of auxiliary contact blade failure in ELM 827 and ELM 828 contactors, in order to prevent a broken blade from causing a short-circuit failure.
  4. Safety Recommendation 2009-024: The Federal Aviation Administration, in conjunction with the European Aviation Safety Agency, should mandate that all Boeing 777 aircraft be equipped, at the earliest opportunity, with a software update that will generate a caution message to alert flight crew of the presence of smoke in the Main Equipment Centre. The aircraft manufacturer responded to this Safety Recommendation by stating: ‘Boeing is undertaking a review of system architecture, smoke detection, flight deck indications, and flight crew procedures across all of our production models to ensure a consistent approach to fireworthiness and flight crew indication, and identify safety enhancements that may be warranted. This work will include a review of the “SMOKE EQUIP COOLING” message for 777 passenger aircraft.’
  5. Safety Recommendation 2009-025: The Federal Aviation Administration, in conjunction with the European Aviation Safety Agency, should mandate that all Boeing 777 aircraft be equipped, at the earliest opportunity, with a containment tray below the open base of the P100, P200 and P300 power panels, to prevent any hot debris from a failed contactor from falling on to insulation blankets or other components and causing heat and fire damage.

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