Chelton Flight Logic

Groundpounder

Groundpounder

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Hi,

I'm about to start flying a King Air 200 with the Chelton Flight Logic EFIS system linked to a Avidyne EX5000 MFD. While it seems to be a very capable system, the user interface leaves a lot to be desired. From doing a search on this website, it seems like a bunch of people have flown with the system, but not a lot of discussion about it. So, anyone have any tips or tricks to using this set up?

Tnx
 
The Chelton is great - spend some time to learn the button-ology really well before you go blasting around in it. Also, get fast at loading up VFR approaches (a really cool feature that is super useful any time you're landing). Finally, remember that while you can program the system to fly through terrain, the airplane cannot. ;-)
 
I find the FlightLogic interface to be very simple and intuitive. Granted I have over 1000 hours flying behind it. Anything specific you're curious about?
 
It's pretty brilliant, and there's really nothing confusing in the way that it operates. I find it ridiculously intuitive for everything. Just know how it operates, and what sort of information it can get you, and its limitations. After that, It Just Works.

-Fox
 
OK, I have a few questions. I was getting vectored for an ILS today, and was given direct to a fix on the approach. I made the box go direct to the fix, but it wouldn't switch from LOC1 to GPS. I ended up putting the airplane in heading mode, and went direct to the fix that way.

Second question, I did a full GPS approach, which had a hold as the course reversal. It flew the hold entry perfectly, and we were established inbound, but instead of flying the approach, it started to turn into the hold again. How can I stop it from continuing the hold?

Thanks
 
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Groundpounder said:
OK, I have a few questions. I was getting vectored for an ILS today, and was given direct to a fix on the approach. I made the box go direct to the fix, but it wouldn't switch from LOC1 to GPS. I ended up putting the airplane in heading mode, and went direct to the fix that way.

Second question, I did a full GPS approach, which had a hold as the course reversal. It flew the hold entry perfectly, and we were established inbound, but instead of flying the approach, it started to turn into the hold again. How can I stop it from continuing the hold?

Thanks
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Groundpounder said:
OK, I have a few questions. I was getting vectored for an ILS today, and was given direct to a fix on the approach. I made the box go direct to the fix, but it wouldn't switch from LOC1 to GPS. I ended up putting the airplane in heading mode, and went direct to the fix that way.
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Wouldn't switch using OBS LOC1? I'll have to play around in the airplane and see. Then again I don't think I get to fly till after kiddo is born.
Second question, I did a full GPS approach, which had a hold as the course reversal. It flew the hold entry perfectly, and we were established inbound, but instead of flying the approach, it started to turn into the hold again. How can I stop it from continuing the hold?

Thanks
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Active-select the next leg-enter enter.
 
Roger Roger said:
Wouldn't switch using OBS LOC1? I'll have to play around in the airplane and see. Then again I don't think I get to fly till after kiddo is born.

Active-select the next leg-enter enter.
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Affirm on the use of the OBS button, it would be OBS, then the GPS soft button, and confirm AUTO. Also just hand flying it through the boxes direct to the fix would be a easy solution as well. The 6.0B software does not auto select VLOC1 on the ILS so you have had to have set it at some point.

For the hold issue, upon crossing the hold fix on the approach there is a soft button on the PFD labeled CONT, just push it and it will continue with the approach.

Just be mindful when playing with the OBS features with the autopilot on, what ever is up on the OBS CDI is what is sent through the AIU to drive the autopilot.
 
Capt. Chaos said:
Probably close to 9,000hrs on the chelton now.
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I'm sure seggy would love to school you on the right way to fly it. Probably even give you some vague buzzword filled advice on how to develop a safe culture.

And if you are looking for child rearing advice make sure to check in with atn pilot and derg.
 
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Another question that might be more related to the autopilot vs the Chelton, but I'll ask anyway. First time I did a GPS approach, I hit approach mode on the mode controller, and when we hit the "glideslope" the aircraft followed it. Today, the aircraft did not follow the "glideslope". The only difference between the two flights is on flight #1, I didn't put the MDA on the bug, but on todays flight, I did set the MDA.

Thanks
 
Groundpounder said:
Another question that might be more related to the autopilot vs the Chelton, but I'll ask anyway. First time I did a GPS approach, I hit approach mode on the mode controller, and when we hit the "glideslope" the aircraft followed it. Today, the aircraft did not follow the "glideslope". The only difference between the two flights is on flight #1, I didn't put the MDA on the bug, but on todays flight, I did set the MDA.

Thanks
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Must have do with logic in the AIU.
 
Groundpounder said:
Another question that might be more related to the autopilot vs the Chelton, but I'll ask anyway. First time I did a GPS approach, I hit approach mode on the mode controller, and when we hit the "glideslope" the aircraft followed it. Today, the aircraft did not follow the "glideslope". The only difference between the two flights is on flight #1, I didn't put the MDA on the bug, but on todays flight, I did set the MDA.

Thanks
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What approaches?
 
Still troubleshooting this GPS approach issue. Anyone here fly and airplane with a Collins APS autopilot linked to the Chelton? If so, what mode do you put the AP in to shoot a WAAS approach? Will it track the glideslope?
 
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