Crocs in Uniform??

bike21 said:
Johnston & Murphy. Detector friendly, comfortable and stylish. I'm by no means the uniform police but some guys haven't a clue about professional dress shoes it seems.
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All true, but mine are falling apart after 6 months.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Are there really yellow thread Nazi's at Delta? Is anyone really going to see the yellow stripe, and take the appropriate time out of their lives to stop you about it???
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Seriously? What do you think chief pilots live for. They have to justify their existence. Let's see, hat police, tie police, APU sheriff, beacon police. Any that I missed @Derg?
 
Cptnchia said:
Seriously? What do you think chief pilots live for. They have to justify their existence. Let's see, hat police, tie police, APU sheriff, beacon police. Any that I missed @Derg?
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The small handful of captains (and I mean a very very very vocal super-minority) that want to bitch at you for removing the dirty trash bag from the cockpit.
 
Derg said:
The small handful of captains (and I mean a very very very vocal super-minority) that want to bitch at you for removing the dirty trash bag from the cockpit.
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What are they mad about? Would they rather the FAs do it, or the aircraft cleaners, or do they just want you to leave it for the next crew?
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
What are they mad about? Would they rather the FAs do it, or the aircraft cleaners, or do they just want you to leave it for the next crew?
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In my case it was because I removed it since it was unnecessary. We don't have a closed door so it's not really necessary to have one hanging off an arm rest. ( in my opinion it just looks "trashy" hahaha... To the passengers.
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Pilotdude3407 said:
What are they mad about? Would they rather the FAs do it, or the aircraft cleaners, or do they just want you to leave it for the next crew?
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Well, some airports have permission to enter the cockpit to remove the bag while others don't.

I believe that when I arrive at the aircraft, I deserve a clean cockpit, but also, that I must also LEAVE a clean cockpit for the next crew.

There are too many times I've arrived at the aircraft to find uneaten food, plates, water bottles, crumpled up newspapers and full trash bags because the previous crew thought their mother or Betty Draper was going to promptly arrive to pick up after them.

Yes, I could call the cabin cleaners, but there are so many "moving parts" to deal with before an ocean crossing, it's fundamentally ridiculous that "Ok, we're missing a ETOPS PDC check, can you send us a copy of the amended track message, Gander's gone to (expletive deleted) so we need a new divert field and oh, the last guys left all their crap in the airplane, could you send someone out to remove this garbage? We don't clean up after ourselves, we're JET PILOTS"
 
Derg said:
I believe that when I arrive at the aircraft, I deserve a clean cockpit, but also, that I must also LEAVE a clean cockpit for the next crew.

There are too many times I've arrived at the aircraft to find uneaten food, plates, water bottles, crumpled up newspapers and full trash bags because the previous crew thought their mother or Betty Draper was going to promptly arrive to pick up after them.
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There REALLY should be a couple of days during initial, and recurrent and probably some quality time during IOE spent on how to properly turn the airplane over to the next crew. It isn't that hard to consider others and clean up after yourself, but some folks just can't be bothered and it drives me nuts.
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
I mean, seriously, how often do you really look at a mans shoes?
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When I was younger, stupider, and in a troll state due to us losing the contract, I spent the last 6 months as a UAX CS agent coming to work like this. In that time, only one person finally noticed with a few days to spare, it was my boss at the time who laughed and took this picture. But I was "that guy" and could get away with it. With a flying job on the line, I would never play games like that. Part of me wants to high-five this guy for getting away with it, as I'm sure there are days not a soul notices he's wearing Crocs, but the other part of me wants to slap him silly. What's the public supposed to think when someone so blatantly doesn't give a rats ass about a professional appearance? If this wasn't a last resort, one-time kind of thing for him, I hope he realizes the message he's putting out there to all the other guys flying the line for less than he's making and coming to work looking sharp.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Are there really yellow thread Nazi's at Delta? Is anyone really going to see the yellow stripe, and take the appropriate time out of their lives to stop you about it???
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I think they're at every airline. In their defense, it's technically out of standards per the FOM since it's not "black." I wore the yellow stitched ones at Pinnacle, I'll admit. I also took a black Sharpie to them whenever the yellow showed. Honestly, though, after about two weeks, "yellow" turned to "black" anyway.

Legit "dress shoes" are designed for boardroom meetings and client lunches, not strolls in glycol, snow and miles of airport walks when you change planes 2-3 times a day. Hence the reason I switched to the Docs. You can either shell out the hundreds of dollars for "dress shoes" every couple of years and hope they hold up, or shell out about $100 for a good pair of Docs and be set for a while.

And I hear ya on the cockpit thing, Doug. Biggest pet peeve of mine is getting in a flight deck where the last guy left all his stuff and left the seat in the "low rider" position. How these guys get OUT of the seat when it's pulled that far forward is a mystery. In the 190, the default position on the FO side is all the way forwards, with the seat all the way up. That way, the next guy can slide his bag right in behind the seat and pull it back. It seems like that's the same on the CA side, too.
 
Ah don't worry, XJT/ASA CPs will be out in short order making sure FltOps folks are dressed appropriately.

Granted, I don't blame our leadership wising up to the fact we've take some grown men and 23 year olds aboard that can barely tie their shoes, much less their ties, or that just LOVE to wear the most awesome North Face uniform coat as if they just hit the slopes, bro.
 
kellwolf said:
And I hear ya on the cockpit thing, Doug. Biggest pet peeve of mine is getting in a flight deck where the last guy left all his stuff and left the seat in the "low rider" position. How these guys get OUT of the seat when it's pulled that far forward is a mystery. In the 190, the default position on the FO side is all the way forwards, with the seat all the way up. That way, the next guy can slide his bag right in behind the seat and pull it back. It seems like that's the same on the CA side, too.
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Oh man. I HATE it when it's all the way up! How do you sit in the seat without bumping your head? I don't leave it all the way down, but for Christ's sake don't put it all the way up either.
 
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