PA44 (Possibly from ATP) Down in GA

[z987k]

Things that are useless: runway behind you.

Times a freaking million.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Times a freaking million.

I can think of exactly once where I thought "Gee, I wish we'd gotten out at 25R/F instead of the full length." (Departing, not landing—but still.)

 

[Patrick]

It's not that flying GA is dangerous- it just gives the user more opportunity to expose themselves to danger.

If you're flying a safe airplane with a record in accordance with the rules and making conservative judgements, the odds of running into a life or death situation are insanely low. Riding the bus is safer and cheaper than driving a car to work, but I doubt any of you have made that risk assessment in favor of the bus.

You wanna fly your Mooney across the Rockies IMC at night? Go right ahead, but know that there's someone who dies doing that *every* single year.
You wanna fly a Cessna VMC to get a hamburger for lunch once a week with a friend? Probably safer than driving the 100 miles.

This.

 

[ComplexHiAv8r]

You couldn't have found a nicer pic of a TBone? Excalibur, maybe?

This better? I couldn't find a pic of the one I looked at last fall.

 

[Roger Roger]

Just read the speculation in inflight breakup. If so will be interesting to find out, as the PA44 shares a basic wing box design with the PA28/32/34 as well-so basically everything Piper built since the 60s.

 

[Richman]

GA is as safe as you make it.

It's all about risk management.

Over the mountains, IFR, at night, single engine? Um, no.

But light IFR, night VFR and so on are entirely doable with the right equipment and mindset.

Richman

 

[trafficinsight]

Just read the speculation in inflight breakup. If so will be interesting to find out, as the PA44 shares a basic wing box design with the PA28/32/34 as well-so basically everything Piper built since the 60s.

There used to be an AD, but the cure was worse than the disease so to speak.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

This better? I couldn't find a pic of the one I looked at last fall. View attachment 27515

Interestingly, this (ours) is the only Twin Bonanza I know of that had mufflers and cowl flaps for European operations. Noise-seeking missiles, and all.

 

[mshunter]

Interestingly, this (ours) is the only Twin Bonanza I know of that had mufflers and cowl flaps for European operations. Noise-seeking missiles, and all.

Oh, that's right. I remember them being obnoxiously loud.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Oh, that's right. I remember them being obnoxiously loud.

You won't sneak up on anyone, for sure. That's not the point.

I'd still consider anything Garrett-powered to be more obnoxious - or the Avanti - (bleep) that noise!

 

[Roger Roger]

There used to be an AD, but the cure was worse than the disease so to speak.

Yes. I have read that. Pulling the wings every 800 hours because someone didn't properly inspect an aircraft that had been previously wrecked is what I was told. Though truth be told I would be a little more comfortable if we pulled them every 2000 hours or so rather than just leaving them on.

 

[ASpilot2be]

You won't sneak up on anyone, for sure. That's not the point.

I'd still consider anything Garrett-powered to be more obnoxious - or the Avanti - (bleep) that noise!

I miss my Garretts Although I am kind of digging the IO-520f.