U.S. Air Aborted Takeoff PHL

Cruise said:
Mark....seriously friend, let the fanboi stuff go. I'm very happy for you that you're now in a Boeing product. Really, I am. But holy crap dude, your little vendetta against Airbus is a silly. If it weren't for friends pulling strings, you'd still be flying the Bus too. Let's not forget that little fact.


Oh wait, perhaps you just want the Bus drivers to bow to Boeing's excellence?!? Ok, all hail BoeIng! How many times do I have to say that to make you happy?
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It's not a vendetta, its like how I bust your chops over Penn State or the hapless Eagles.

:)

If I needed to fly the Airbus again no problem, I just think the Boeing is superior.
 
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Seggy said:
The bottom line though is he was pulling back on the yoke and the houses still got bigger/stayed the same size. Would not have happened on a Boeing! :)
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Take your 737 to 30 feet AGL, manual thrust left at idle, one notch less than full flaps (which is 25?), gear down, and nose up attitude of 15 degrees and an airspeed of 122 knots. Now, from this exact same situation, from idle thrust apply max go around thrust while simultaneously pulling back on the yoke. If you think you'll get something other than a stick shaker/pusher, then you should re-examine the backside of the power curve.
 
Seggy said:
It's not a vendetta, its like how I bust your chops over Penn State or the hapless Eagles.
:)

If I needed to fly the Airbus again, I just think the Boeing is superior.
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Boeing....Airbus. At the end of the day, it's the same sitting on your butt, going from A to B and getting you and the pax there safely.

The best plane, is always the one you're currently flying. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Look, I think most pilots realize it doesn't matter if it's a Boeing or an Airbus. Each has its plusses and minuses. From a pilot standpoint, I would say my #1 importance in terms of the airplane itself would be the comfort level/ergonomics. Afterall, I spend 5.5 to 6.5 hrs on transcon flights and for that reason I would like comfort. I've flown the A320 and only jumpseated on a B737 but on the ergonomics/comfort level, I'd say the A320 is much better. Plenty of room for bags for both pilots and a jumpseater. As for LNAV/VNAV/FLCH it's the same as Push Heading/Push Altitude/Pull Altitude. Who cares?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Take your 737 to 30 feet AGL, manual thrust left at idle, one notch less than full flaps (which is 25?), gear down, and nose up attitude of 15 degrees and an airspeed of 122 knots. Now, from this exact same situation, from idle thrust apply max go around thrust while simultaneously pulling back on the yoke. If you think you'll get something other than a stick shaker/pusher, then you should re-examine the backside of the power curve.
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Now why in the world would I do that?
 
Derg said:
We do have airbags on the aircraft with the lie-flat configurations.
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Doug, Otto is not an Airbag.

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MikeD said:
Boeing....Airbus. At the end of the day, it's the same sitting on your butt, going from A to B and getting you and the pax there safely.

The best plane, is always the one you're currently flying. Nothing wrong with that.
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Unless you're currently flying a 207.
 
You know, I appreciate my Roomba. It's like having an assistant help keep the place clean. If arrange things correctly, it just works. I don't have to know what it's thinking, only that it will get the job done and behave predictably.

And I'm sure Dyson makes a good product, but it's still a very manual effort; an on/off switch may be connected to some impressive technology, but it still has a cord and I have to directly guide it everywhere to get my carpet clean. I'd rather have more executive control.
 
Minuteman said:
You know, I appreciate my Roomba. It's like having an assistant help keep the place clean. If arrange things correctly, it just works. I don't have to know what it's thinking, only that it will get the job done and behave predictably.

And I'm sure Dyson makes a good product, but it's still a very manual effort; an on/off switch may be connected to some impressive technology, but it still has a cord and I have to directly guide it everywhere to get my carpet clean. I'd rather have more executive control.
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And then it doesn't complain about suffrage. Good choice! :)
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
That Airbus at Mulhouse did the same thing a B737 would have done at the same altitude, attitude, heading (towards the trees!), and airspeed.

I'm sure they both have their plusses and minuses, but not enough to outright dismiss it as an "piece of crap."
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Why are you taking this so personal? Its not "your" airplane, you don't own it, you didn't build it, its just what youre assigned to fly at the moment.
 
Kingairer said:
Why are you taking this so personal? Its not "your" airplane, you don't own it, you didn't build it, its just what youre assigned to fly at the moment.
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I'm not being personal nor did I use the term "my" airplane. It's addressing a certain someone's idea that another product would have behaved differently whereas I am pointing out the back side of the power curve that low to the ground is bad juju no matter which product you're in.
 
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