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First of all: all those expenses were legit minus the bar tab that wasn't ever paid.

Second, add all that up and multiply it by 10 and you're still not even close to what the current MEC has spent without proper funding.
 
First of all: all those expenses were legit minus the bar tab that wasn't ever paid.

Second, add all that up and multiply it by 10 and you're still not even close to what the current MEC has spent without proper funding.

Both jokes. That report was the tip of the iceberg. I know about plenty and I don't know it all. "The" bar tab?! Seriously? Just the fact that you and your crew think it's okay to routinely get liquored up on dues money speaks volumes to your credibility and character (read: total lack thereof).

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about regarding MEC funding right now.

Grasping at straws in desperation. What is it with you guys? Is this some sort of job interview with Jerry Glass?
 
Both jokes. That report was the tip of the iceberg. I know about plenty and I don't know it all. "The" bar tab?! Seriously? Just the fact that you and your crew think it's okay to routinely get liquored up on dues money speaks volumes to your credibility and character (read: total lack thereof).

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about regarding MEC funding right now.

Grasping at straws in desperation. What is it with you guys? Is this some sort of job interview with Jerry Glass?

If it was only the tip why haven't you gone digging? It doesn't matter either way because they were sanctioned and approved expenses. We held a family awareness event that included an open bar. Nobody complained then.

I'm not going to argue that trying to expense a bar tab is pretty pathetic, but it wasn't like that at all. We went to dinner with pilots and volunteers- people had some drinks. The group meal policy saved the MEC thousands of dollars all while buying a few pilots some beer. Whoop-dee-do.

I know you don't have a grant and I know the MEC is bleeding money faster than any bar tab.
 
I may be out of line here, and if I am please feel free to put me back in place.

What did either of you have to do with drafting either TA? Comm chair that involved? I didn't think that position held any "power" like that.

One doesn't like the other because he volunteered for a position under "team Tony's" reign and they bought booze. You both have been comm chair under separate MEC leaders, both outcomes have been the same: a POS TA.

Some pilots don't like Tony for the boozing fiasco. How many pilots will like Sprague if the company closes shop?
 
I can't speak for him, but personally I'm just trying to get information (truth) out to the pilots. Same reason I volunteered to be the comm chair in the first place. It's not personal on my side- but I'm constantly attacked for things I didn't do or people I associated with while serving what I believed to be the greater good.
 
And BTW- that pos TA we negotiated happens to be the best bankruptcy contract any carrier has ever seen.

*which, to your point, I had nothing to do with creating. I only helped develop material about it and presented that to the pilot group.
 
For all the non-Eagle pilots out there, may I present to you our former MEC and current MEC...

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Back to your old ways. Anyone that doesn't agree with you must be a snacker. @ATN_Pilot is a mainline pilot that was already doing union work by the time your were sitting in new hire class.

Good for him. I really wish I could go down this path but now is not the time. Maybe a few months from now I will dig up this thread and we can revisit his vigorous defense.
 
If it was only the tip why haven't you gone digging? It doesn't matter either way because they were sanctioned and approved expenses. We held a family awareness event that included an open bar. Nobody complained then.

I'm not going to argue that trying to expense a bar tab is pretty pathetic, but it wasn't like that at all. We went to dinner with pilots and volunteers- people had some drinks. The group meal policy saved the MEC thousands of dollars all while buying a few pilots some beer. Whoop-dee-do.

I know you don't have a grant and I know the MEC is bleeding money faster than any bar tab.

Do you know how many people in your crew you just threw under the bus? Do you have a filter installed between your brain and your mouth? I can believe you guys thought a family awareness event with open bar a good idea, I can believe you guys planned it and I can even believe you did it. It's just hard to believe you would post that like it's okay to say.

The group meal policy saved money? Keep it coming Jared. Tony will be telling you to stop posting, again, any time now....
 
Do you know how many people in your crew you just threw under the bus? Do you have a filter installed between your brain and your mouth? I can believe you guys thought a family awareness event with open bar a good idea, I can believe you guys planned it and I can even believe you did it. It's just hard to believe you would post that like it's okay to say.

The group meal policy saved money? Keep it coming Jared. Tony will be telling you to stop posting, again, any time now....

What's wrong with an open bar for pilots, their spouses, and their of-age kids who want to partake. Designated drivers are a personal responsibility not to be "forced" by a union holding a dry event.

edited to add:

If a pilot or his/her family cannot exercise personal responsibility at a family event with an adult beverage, they should consider HIMS.

You are not throwing your union under the bus by decrying the open bar, you are throwing your fellow line pilots under the bus and essentially stating that they can't drink responsibly.
 
What's wrong with an open bar for pilots, their spouses, and their of-age kids who want to partake. Designated drivers are a personal responsibility not to be "forced" by a union holding a dry event.

edited to add:

If a pilot or his/her family cannot exercise personal responsibility at a family event with an adult beverage, they should consider HIMS.

You are not throwing your union under the bus by decrying the open bar, you are throwing your fellow line pilots under the bus and essentially stating that they can't drink responsibly.
 

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You're making this board harder to use then you have to...

Got to love the witch hunt which you are undoubtedly a part of just because you disagree with the union negotiating concessions. Try using your vote on the contract or at LEC meetings rather than slinging mud.
 
I find all this back and forth very relevant. It is important to know the credibility of any person(s) who are providing opinionated statements on our future.
For a group of people who had no moral objection to spending thousands of our unions dollars on extravagant meals and alcohol for friends and family... I do not give a fart about your opinion because you have proven yourself to be selfish, self-centered, and entitled.
 
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