US Airways Pilot Keeps American Pilots Off His Jumpseat

[SpiceWeasel]

I agree. The ASAP MOU is not the only reason, for sure. I just wish you could get one without the union politics that goes with it.

"If you can't beat them, join them." Not suggesting that you should engage in politics per se, just thinking that an anti-establishment guy such as yourself could be a very successful and pilot-first rep.

It has worked well thus far at Endeavor.

Ever since we got rid of our old guard, we have had great reps. The new NYC council and recently re-elected DTW council come to mind.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

Agreed. Not a fan of that either, though the politics are different. I know you've got it in your little head that I'm pro management and anti labor, but that's not the case. Anti ALPA is not anti labor.

I took a position in safety to help my fellow pilots, not harm them. Safety departments typically are the voice of reason to provide guidance to flight operations, not to be anti-labor.



My wife's insurance used to be better than JetBlue's insurance because she is a doctor, and care within her hospital was effectively free. This year hers is worse than JetBlue's, so we are on my insurance now. That's just the way health insurance is going in the country at large. JetBlue's insurance is worse than other airline's insurance, but average in the country at large.

We can negotiate for better healthcare, but it will come at a cost somewhere else. It's not like we will just get good healthcare for free once the union comes on property.

Companies are using ObamaCare as an excuse to gut coverage. "See it does suck, told ya so".

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

Companies are using ObamaCare as an excuse to gut coverage. "See it does suck, told ya so".

I agree. It's just politics, and it's gonna cost us a ton of negotiating capital to reverse.

 

[Seggy]

I know you've got it in your little head that I'm pro management and anti labor, but that's not the case.

There is a reason I have it in my head. Anyone in a safety position should understand why they should not be advocating for a reliability and attendance policy. They should be advocating against them.

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

There is a reason I have it in my head. Anyone in a safety position should understand why they should not be advocating for a reliability and attendance policy. They should be advocating against them.

Sigh... I'm not starting that discussion again. I'll happily discuss anything else, but that topic is done. You don't understand my position. Move on.

 

[Seggy]

Sigh... I'm not starting that discussion again. I'll happily discuss anything else, but that topic is done. You don't understand my position. Move on.

I don't want to discuss that either.

I am telling you why I have my viewpoint in my head.

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

I don't want to discuss that either.

I am telling you why I have my (incorrect) viewpoint in my head.

FIFY

 

[SpiceWeasel]

I don't want to discuss that either.

I am telling you why I have my viewpoint in my head.

In fairness to @PhilosopherPilot , Endeavor's attendance policy sucks and we have a union.

7 sick calls of any length in 12 months is termination.

 

[Seggy]

In fairness to @PhilosopherPilot , Endeavor's attendance policy sucks and we have a union.

7 sick calls of any length in 12 months is termination.

My view has nothing to do with the fact that he works at an airline without a union (yet).

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

My view has nothing to do with the fact that he works at an airline without a union (yet).

No, it has to do with your lack of reading comprehension skills.

 

[Seggy]

No, it has to do with your lack of reading comprehension skills.

Because I disagree with you, that means you degrade my skills?

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

Because I disagree with you, that means you degrade my skills?

No. Disagreeing is fine. It's that you never understood what I was saying. If you did, you wouldn't think I'm in favor of the JetBlue attendance policy.

I said I understand why they created it, not that I agree with it. In fact I said I thought it was poorly implemented, and not well thought out.

We can continue this via PM if you like, but it's not worth general discussion.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

My view has nothing to do with the fact that he works at an airline without a union (yet).

Well a safety guy who favors a reliability policy isn't a big deal. I have learned a lot about our "safety" department since the attendance topic came up and let me tell you... Shocking! So, one dude with an opinion I don't agree with, not a big deal.

 

[Seggy]

Be more specific what did you learn about the safety department?

And yes, it is a big deal. The regulation (along with HIPAA law) is very black and white.

 

[z987k]

I'm still a yes vote, because we need it.

Sure, I'm just saying it would give me and probably others cause to think about it a lot more.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

Be more specific what did you learn about the safety department?

And yes, it is a big deal. The regulation (along with HIPAA law) is very black and white.

We didn't pull our FOQA/ASAP LOA for example, after ATL CPO pulled MX data to go after 80 pilots for a tail strike.

 

[SpiceWeasel]

Be more specific what did you learn about the safety department?

And yes, it is a big deal. The regulation (along with HIPAA law) is very black and white.

Is it as black and white as OSHA law? I get to open the lav panel with only gloves, no face protection.

 

[Seggy]

We didn't pull our FOQA/ASAP LOA for example, after ATL CPO pulled MX data to go after 80 pilots for a tail strike.

I agree that is bullcrap. But if it is, WHY are you on here bitching about it instead of making an uproar with your elected reps and force them to go after the company over this?

 

[PhilosopherPilot]

We didn't pull our FOQA/ASAP LOA for example, after ATL CPO pulled MX data to go after 80 pilots for a tail strike.

Did they attempt to pull FOQA data? Did the safety department hand data over to them?

 

[Seggy]

Is it as black and white as OSHA law? I get to open the lav panel with only gloves, no face protection.

Once again, there are ways to handle this. File ASAP Reports, call OSHA, file a OSHA/Department of Labor complaint against the company/FAA.