::blushing:: I accept.
Back at ah good buddy. Southbound and down, er, heading one eight zero pee dee to flight level zero six fife.
Malaysia Airlines 777 missing
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Back at ah good buddy. Southbound and down, er, heading one eight zero pee dee to flight level zero six fife.
jgheggie
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Foriegn carriers do not have to comply with FAA ADs if they choose not to right? I mean, obviously it would be wise to. But is it possible that this aircraft was flying with the faulty equipment? I would guess its very possible.
Has this been brought up in the media or investigated? I searched but couldn't find much.
Departure push the other day resulted in being able to delete speed restrictions, but still had to assign speeds for in trail. I asked a 737 what they were going to accelerate to when they got to 10,000 and they responded 300 knots so I assigned the next few aircraft 300 knots. After a few minutes, a Delta Airbus keys up and says, "Just to let you know, but it is pretty bumpy here at 10 and 300 knots." I kindly asked if that was moderate or greater chop. She responded "occasional light chop." I about reached through the freakin scope and slapped her...
"Maintain TCAS separation!"
ZeroPapaGolf
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I.....I grew up in the country.
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
We have an evening OGG-HNL flight that is 555. There is one HCF controller who, on EVER SINGLE FREAKING TRANSMISSION to it, says "triple nickle". I don't think he even uses our company call sign half the time.
sweeps
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Heard today, "eagle flight xxx climbing one point five for six thousand" Love the "point" whatever when it's sub 2000 feet lol. Anyways, back to the regularly scheduled thread.
fholbert
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It's funny that the government of China would release these pictures, nothing more than a couple of blobs AND I would think the satellite picture would be a much clearer than what China released. When I look at Google Earth of my house I can see my dog sleeping in the back yard.
Is it possible that China is hiding the satellite photo technology they have holding on to much clearer pictures? Pictures where wreckage can be easily identified?
Is it possible that China is hiding the satellite photo technology they have holding on to much clearer pictures? Pictures where wreckage can be easily identified?
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You sir, could use a little E-40 in your life...
ElihuSmails
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Agree with those and a few others. "Tally" is actually still in the military brevity vernacular, and can be pretty useful talking from aircraft to aircraft. "No Joy" is a pretty standard term when you have negative comms on a switched freq - though something tells me you've heard that term in another context. I'd actually be interested to hear it!
On another note: I find it odd that a 777 would go down in a very busy shipping lane like the Straits of Malacca and not be seen as it happened, much less no sign of debris at this point in the game. There's only 60,000 ships per year that transit that strait. I'm not buying it!
jgheggie
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I'm still a low timer (300hr), but I was always taught that "no joy" was common. I have always used it as a short reply when the controller is asking if I see the traffic. "Traffic in sight" if I have it. Or "no joy" if I do not.
Albeit, in all my (limited) flying, and all my time listening to live atc I cannot recall hearing an airline pilot say it to describe traffic.
ZeroPapaGolf
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You're looking for "negative contact".
adk
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I believe the detailed images of your neighborhood at shot from aircraft as opposed to satellite.
Tally: enemy aircraft / other threat aircraft, in sight
No Joy: Same as above, not in sight.
Visual: friendly aircraft / aircraft part of formation, in sight
Blind: Same as above, not in sight.
Contact: ground object being pointed out, in sight.
jgheggie
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I have heard that at times. Or "negative traffic" or "negative visual" as well.
ElihuSmails
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I have heard No Joy in reference to traffic. I was taught to simply say "Looking".
jgheggie
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At some point though, the traffic may be dangerous if you still can't locate it. After a while of not seeing it I just say "no joy" so the controller can turn me, or at least be aware that I cannot provide my own separation visually with traffic.
ElihuSmails
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Maybe this is a case of tomato vs tomatoe, or just the law of primacy in effect. Regardless, until you have called traffic in sight, a controller cannot assume that you can maintain separation. In my initial training, "No Joy" was for negative comms with a unit. "Looking" was a term for traffic not in sight. Either way, I think you're fine if you can efficiently get the point across that you cannot maintain visual separation.
As to the search, I wonder what sort of scenarios the think tank has concocted for the possibility of foul play. Though I don't believe it went down in the strait, I find it hard to believe the aircraft penetrated another country's ADIZ/Airspace without being noticed.
As to the search, I wonder what sort of scenarios the think tank has concocted for the possibility of foul play. Though I don't believe it went down in the strait, I find it hard to believe the aircraft penetrated another country's ADIZ/Airspace without being noticed.