US Airways Pilot Keeps American Pilots Off His Jumpseat

MikeD said:
People still complaining about the DAL/NWA SLI? I thought it was one of the more smooth ones to have occurred.

Of course, in comparison to AA/TWA, I suppose any other example is smooth. :)
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A scant few.

But the metric keeps changing on why they think they for screwed.

Now it's "I lost my assumed attrition". Lol. WOT?!
 
Derg said:
A scant few.

But the metric keeps changing on why they think they for screwed.

Now it's "I lost my assumed attrition". Lol. WOT?!
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So they get proven wrong on one complaint, and all they do is come up with another?

What are these guys, professional victims??
 
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MikeD said:
So they get proven wrong on one complaint, and all they do is come up with another?

What are these guys, professional victims??
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My shop is no different. I'm DCN, so it was no affect or effect on me. Most guys claiming "screwed" didn't even read the arbitration
 
MikeD said:
So they get proven wrong on one complaint, and all they do is come up with another?

What are these guys, professional victims??
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Yup. But it seems to be a personal problem with one persons expectations. Everyone else moved on.
 
Derg said:
Yup. But it seems to be a personal problem with one persons expectations. Everyone else moved on.
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Thankfully you are correct. My guess is that the SIL complainers had a whole different list of "injustices" before the merger and merely shifted their focus post merger. More than likely they went from bitching about getting screwed by "whatever color book" NWA pilots to North/South integration. Like you said though, thankfully a small minority that no one really pays any attention to.
 
I primarily fly with north guys now.

They've been completely awesome and absolutely nothing like those buffoons online.

In fact on my last 11 day trip, the captain said "take all the legs, just let Mark fly a couple times, build some muscle memory with the jet"

How awesome is that when you're new?
 
Derg said:
I primarily fly with north guys now.

They've been completely awesome and absolutely nothing like those buffoons online.

In fact on my last 11 day trip, the captain said "take all the legs, just let Mark fly a couple times, build some muscle memory with the jet"

How awesome is that when you're new?
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Now Douglas, do not be a stick hog now......taking all the flight time. :)
 
MikeD said:
Now Douglas, do not be a stick hog now......taking all the flight time. :)
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They both conferred on that before offering.

That's why I bitch at those guys on the Southernjets forum. My new coworkers are awesome but one or two are trying to drag them under their smelly angtsy umbrella full of personal issues.

And that right, @Richman? ;)
 
Derg said:
I primarily fly with north guys now.

They've been completely awesome and absolutely nothing like those buffoons online.

In fact on my last 11 day trip, the captain said "take all the legs, just let Mark fly a couple times, build some muscle memory with the jet"

How awesome is that when you're new?
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I hope you made them do all the PA's....
 
Derg said:
They both conferred on that before offering.

That's why I bitch at those guys on the Southernjets forum. My new coworkers are awesome but one or two are trying to drag them under their smelly angtsy umbrella full of personal issues.

And that right, @Richman? ;)
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Yuppers. It's the 1%ers on both sides.

In the interwebz trolling game, it takes two to tango.

The best thing you can do is ask "Sooo, what is it, exactly, that you want?".

Richman
 
Derg said:
They both conferred on that before offering.

That's why I bitch at those guys on the Southernjets forum. My new coworkers are awesome but one or two are trying to drag them under their smelly angtsy umbrella full of personal issues.

And that right, @Richman? ;)
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You guys at DAL just need to be quiet and be thankful for the pay raise the company bestowed upon you.......

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I saw one of these happen in the gate area at ORD waiting for a DH once. It happened in front of a lot of people (one being a FED heading back to OKC). It was childish, ugly and embarrassing. The denied fella was at the counter requesting the ride. Word came back that the skipper said "no" Denied fella asked for a word with the skipper. Skipper came tumbling down the jetway, pointing at this guy, yelling out some malarkey. FO walks up from grabbing a coffee. Skipper tries to get FO involved. FO aint having it and walks to the airplane shaking his head. I had no clue what airline the denied fella was from. Maybe it was his leather jacket. Skipper was UAL (old school from the looks of it)
 
SeanD said:
I saw one of these happen in the gate area at ORD waiting for a DH once. It happened in front of a lot of people (one being a FED heading back to OKC). It was childish, ugly and embarrassing. The denied fella was at the counter requesting the ride. Word came back that the skipper said "no" Denied fella asked for a word with the skipper. Skipper came tumbling down the jetway, pointing at this guy, yelling out some malarkey. FO walks up from grabbing a coffee. Skipper tries to get FO involved. FO aint having it and walks to the airplane shaking his head. I had no clue what airline the denied fella was from. Maybe it was his leather jacket. Skipper was UAL (old school from the looks of it)
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Sure, it's the CA's seat to give or to take, but so is my opinion on how he runs things. If the CA has his d-nozzle set to maximum flow, I'm certainly going to let him know that.

Richman
 
Derg said:
Oh, I'm playfully debating a guy on the Southernjets pilot forum because he lost his "Earned Attrition" during the SLI.
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I gave up that forum cold turkey about 8 months ago and I have never felt better. This is the only time suck I have now, and I even limit it to 15-20 minutes a day.

So, just guessing, is it the idiot 747 copilot, the former flight attendant A320 whiner, or the guy that types 14 page responses to everything and has solved seniority integration (who is one number junior to me, which I find very amusing)?
 
Richman said:
Sure, it's the CA's seat to give or to take, but so is my opinion on how he runs things. If the CA has his d-nozzle set to maximum flow, I'm certainly going to let him know that.

Richman
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I'll never forget one of my favorite DC9 captains (former Eastern guy...old skool) who put one of our company jumpseaters in his place one day. It was beautiful. We were flying from ATL-SAV. Full flight . UPS guy is trying to get on and we have an online guy listed. Both are checked in. I come down the jetway and the agent stops me to inform me that we have jumpseaters. Online guy is refusing to take the FA jumpseat to get the UPS pilot in the flight deck mumbling to me about his long transoceanic flight and how it's his jumpseat. I walk down and tell the capt what is going on (I'm on probation at the time). The capt walks up and tells the online guy that in fact it's not his jumpseat and that he can either take the FA jumpseat with their permission, wait on the next flight, or walk home. Watching him sheepishly walk up to the flight deck to request the FA jumpseat from the CA and FA was priceless.
 
Cav said:
I'll never forget one of my favorite DC9 captains (former Eastern guy...old skool) who put one of our company jumpseaters in his place one day. It was beautiful. We were flying from ATL-SAV. Full flight . UPS guy is trying to get on and we have an online guy listed. Both are checked in. I come down the jetway and the agent stops me to inform me that we have jumpseaters. Online guy is refusing to take the FA jumpseat to get the UPS pilot in the flight deck mumbling to me about his long transoceanic flight and how it's his jumpseat. I walk down and tell the capt what is going on (I'm on probation at the time). The capt walks up and tells the online guy that in fact it's not his jumpseat and that he can either take the FA jumpseat with their permission, wait on the next flight, or walk home. Watching him sheepishly walk up to the flight deck to request the FA jumpseat from the CA and FA was priceless.
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I was trying to go RAP-MSP on DL. Flight the night before cancelled due to WX, so inbound crew was scheduled to DH back to MSP. Outbound crew was SLC based and beyond awesome. Inbound Captain proceeds to tell the Skywest gate crew that "The FO and I will be taking the js's to get everyone out". SLC Captain pulls him aside to kindly remind him that it's his ship now, and that the DL commuter and I will be getting his JS's...that if he wants to go back to MSP he can take his seat in the back...or he can give up his seat to someone else.

SLC Captain took a delay for us, SKW crew wanted to push with open seats with the "WE HAVE TO GO ON TIME!!!one111one"
 
SurferLucas said:
I was trying to go RAP-MSP on DL. Flight the night before cancelled due to WX, so inbound crew was scheduled to DH back to MSP. Outbound crew was SLC based and beyond awesome. Inbound Captain proceeds to tell the Skywest gate crew that "The FO and I will be taking the js's to get everyone out". SLC Captain pulls him aside to kindly remind him that it's his ship now, and that the DL commuter and I will be getting his JS's...that if he wants to go back to MSP he can take his seat in the back...or he can give up his seat to someone else.

SLC Captain took a delay for us, SKW crew wanted to push with open seats with the "WE HAVE TO GO ON TIME!!!one111one"
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Some people need to have a gentle reminder of who owns the jumpseat.


And I'll NEVER understand the precedence that "on time" takes over doing what the company claims to be in business for (fly passengers) at some airlines. It seems as if some gate agents would prefer to leave empty rather than take a delay to get everyone on. If there are 100 pax at the gate, and I have 100 seats on my plane, no one should be left behind.
 
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