It isn't just the horrendously low pay pay. It's the lies, the no pay for training, no transportation to get to the interview, how terrible their management is, what your life will be like while trying to live on the pay, how your days will go, how little chance you will have to upgrade, how they treat their employees, the fact that they are in serious financial hurt and more. They are the pariah of the industry. Seriously did you read the quotes that I posted on the last page of that thread tonight? You still think they are a great idea and opportunity?