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http://www.kcaw.org/2013/12/16/delta-challenges-alaska-on-seattle-juneau-flights/

December 16, 2013 9:50 pm
Delta Air Lines is resuming its long-dormant Seattle-Juneau flights.
But they’ll only happen once a day, and only during the summer.
The airline’s website shows bookings are now available from May 30th to
August 31st, 2014.
Northbound flights will leave Seattle at 6:30 a.m. and arrive in Juneau at 9:40
a.m. Southbound flights leave Juneau at 6:45 p.m. and arrive in Seattle at
8:10 p.m.
The Delta website quotes roundtrip prices at around $500. That’s about $70 less than Alaska Airlines charges for
similar flights.
Delta officials could not be reached for immediate comment. But a corporate communications staffer said an
announcement could be released soon.
In a prepared statement, Alaska Airlines spokeswoman Bobbie Egan said her company has made a decades-long
commitment to the community.
She said technology tested in Juneau means it has often been, quote, “the only airline to access the state’s capital
when no other commercial airline could.”
Delta and Alaska are mileage and flight-sharing partners, listing some of each other’s flights under their own brand.
But they’ve become increasingly competitive. Delta has been expanding flights to and from the Sea-Tac Airport,
where Alaska is the largest tenant. Some of those flights directly compete with Alaska.
Atlanta-based Delta used to fly to the capital city. Juneau airport officials say that ended in 1996.
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It's pretty crazy. The pace Delta is building up SEA is similar to how Southwest came into DEN. Once the drama subsides between Alaska and Delta, I'd guess Delta will codeshare with Alaska and take most of its own metal off domestic flights from SEA and let Alaska keep feeding the decent-sized International hub. In the mean time, this is going to be a great time to buy tickets to/from Seattle.

Just to give an idea of how many cities have been added in the last several months, Delta will soon be serving all these routes from SEA:
AMS
NRT
HND
LHR
PEK
PVG
CDG
HKG
ICN
YVR
JNU
FAI
ANC
CVG
MSP
ATL
JFK
SLC
LAS
SFO
LAX
SJC
SAN
PDX
JAC

They ain't playin'! But I gotta ask, I've read SEA-SJC and possibly YVR will be Expressjet CRJ-900s. Seeing as Xjet doesn't do any West Coast CR9 flying right now, will they just have a few RJs based in SEA and deadhead crews? Odd they got that over Skywest or Compass.
 
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The thing that worries me is that everybody has been so careful about putting capacity back in the system over the last few years. But over the last year Delta has been adding capacity like crazy (there was a little graph that showed it pretty well in the latest ALPA magazine).
 
We have some decent network gurus who have been watching and observing various markets as well as looking at the numbers of Southernjets passengers who have been traveling on Alaska code-share flights.
 
ChasenSFO said:
But I gotta ask, I've read SEA-SJC and possibly YVR will be Expressjet CRJ-900s. Seeing as Xjet doesn't do any West Coast CR9 flying right now, will they just have a few RJs based in SEA and deadhead crews? Odd they got that over Skywest or Compass.
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ExpressJet is only the placeholder in the schedule now, those flights will be operated by SkyWest.
 
One thing someone pointed out to me is that with the lack of infrastructure at PAJN, I would imagine that in order to get any gate space etc. here Delta would have to work a deal with AS.
Also the service isn't gonna be worth jack if they don't have access to the AS proprietary RNP approaches, especially the one to 26.
 
Roger Roger said:
One thing someone pointed out to me is that with the lack of infrastructure at PAJN, I would imagine that in order to get any gate space etc. here Delta would have to work a deal with AS.
Also the service isn't gonna be worth jack if they don't have access to the AS proprietary RNP approaches, especially the one to 26.
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AS is just a great operation isn't it? It seems like they are a machine operationally from the outside looking in.
 
jynxyjoe said:
AS is just a great operation isn't it? It seems like they are a machine operationally from the outside looking in.
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It seems to me as an outsider that they at least sort of try to be a good airline, not a money laundering operation that runs airplanes.
The amount of money and effort they've put into developing RNP approaches around here is impressive.
If you can (AS seems to keep a pretty tight lid on that stuff), you should take a look at that RNP26 approach I mentioned. It is a thing of beauty and riding the jet in when the weather is at minimums is pretty dang impressive.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Why don't they just buy them already? They contractually were promised the first dance at the prom.
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I hope that never happens. I'd imagine if Delta was doing the flying up here the service to places like Adak, Kotz, Nome, Deadhorse and probably even Fairbanks in the winter would suffer greatly.
 
z987k said:
That's another thing. If someone else stepped in to fill the gaps with their pile of crap saabs and dash 8's that would probably be weight limited due to the range, half of the state wouldn't get to work every day.
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I'd suspect that EFS would be mandated to continue at their current level whoever purchased AS. If it should ever happen.
 
CRJDriver said:
ExpressJet is only the placeholder in the schedule now, those flights will be operated by SkyWest.
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Yes I was told the same, that all this new SEA expansion would be a combination of mainline flying, Skywest flying (multiple west pilot bases including SEA), and Compass (LAX base).
 
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