US/AA Reach Settlement with DOJ

skyw82 said:
they are going from 250 flights to 255 flights. Some of those slots they have to "give up" were already being used by other airlines.
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From the actual filing, sounds like they are giving up all of AA's slots in DCA, plus 2 US slots. So they are actually decreasing from the current US levels. Still seems like BS to me... none of the other airlines had to give up this much for their mergers.

Also, why give up LGA slots? Delta is the dominant carrier there... maybe they ought to give up some slots too.
 
Does this mean no new hires off the street until all the Eagle guys flow? If so that sucks for everyone who wasn't a super pilot who had zero chance at United and Delta. My buddy just started yesterday looks like he won the lottery
 
Sucks for the guys negatively affected (you know there will be some). Happy for the guys that wanted it. I'm just glad the merger bullseye will likely not swing my direction....
 
wheelsup said:
Does this mean no new hires off the street until all the Eagle guys flow? If so that sucks for everyone who wasn't a super pilot who had zero chance at United and Delta. My buddy just started yesterday looks like he won the lottery
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No all the eagle flow throughs that have AA numbers are over to AA now. The 824 guys will be half of the AA new hire classes going forward, and that's just AA not sure how they will use that for USAir classes.
 
Jfk-Pilot said:
So what does this mean for carriers like air Wisconsin?
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Word on the street is our management was as shocked as we were over this. While I can't possibly see them not knowing something, nonetheless I think this will close LGA and DCA for us. I'm bummed being a DCA guy. We shall see.
 
Jfk-Pilot said:
So what does this mean for carriers like air Wisconsin?
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Probably very little in the short term. USAir currently has a contract them that will stay in effect. Additionally it appears that USAir has to maintain the majority of it's RJ feed in DCA following today's ruling which AW does. Looking forward 2-3 years down the road is anyone's guess. They'll be competing against every other feeder out there looking for American's business.

I was with XJT as Continental merged with United. We had contracts with both airlines at the time and the amount of flying we did didn't change drastically. Of course the operation got much worse as the merger progressed and I think they're still trying to figure out how to run a quality operation...
 
crashmbern said:
No all the eagle flow throughs that have AA numbers are over to AA now. The 824 guys will be half of the AA new hire classes going forward, and that's just AA not sure how they will use that for USAir classes.
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what are you guys talking about? does this DOJ thing change what is currently going on? Did I miss something?
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Word on the street is our management was as shocked as we were over this. While I can't possibly see them not knowing something, nonetheless I think this will close LGA and DCA for us. I'm bummed being a DCA guy. We shall see.
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No idea why you would think giving up 52 slots in DC which are supposed to be mostly AA slots will effect our DCA base. I doubt it very much. Maybe LGA but not DCA. ZW has the most departures and arrivals of any airline in DC. Just my 2 cents.
 
kellwolf said:
Yep. A merger isn't the way to get a union on property. At least not in a good way. We'll likely have one soon, especially now that everyone has seen the new agreements.
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That isn't what I meant....I'd be VERY careful to say something like 'looks like we aren't going to merge'......
 
kellwolf said:
Yep. A merger isn't the way to get a union on property. At least not in a good way. We'll likely have one soon, especially now that everyone has seen the new agreements.
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A merger discussion was what got ALPA on the Spirit property really quick in ~ 1996.
 
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