What are your company traditions?

My former company's tradition, when you use 1 sick day was to call you in for a carpet dance and attempt to scare you with fear and intimidation tactics.
 
The last company I worked for had a tradition of not keeping their promises, not allowing you to take vacation, and not promoting you because "you're to valuable in your present position".
 
ATN_Pilot said:
They have some idiotic tradition about carrying around a bowling ball or some such nonsense. But I've found that their real tradition is raping anyone who they merge with.
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Quick question because I haven't been following , what happens to the 717 guys ?
 
1. Under paying you on your 15th paycheck, by minus 100-500$
2. Running you to your 5th or 6th on reserve, cause OBVIOUSLY it would cause a cancellation if crew scheduling didn't do it. Duh
3. Taking away a trip you picked up in opentime cause it had a great overnight, at a location you bought tickets for an event to...FOR TRAINING. (yeah, whatever, off with pay, but now I'm out $120 bucks...GEE THANKS •).
4. Putting you in the most bed bug infested hotels in the United States of BedBug America.
5. Taking away the cleanest hotels in the most prime spots for drinks and chicks, cause well, that just wouldn't be fair to dispatchers and mechanics and office worker bees who do not get to travel for their jobs. No NO no!!!no NO!
6. Paying new hires pennies cause, well, that's what its all about. Duh
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8. Finding cool ways to make you feel special - Turkey coupons, holiday meals in crew lounges, mini-Indy fundraiser. (Okay, minus mini-indy - I gotta hand it to management on this one, company culture is garbage, but the turkey coupons and looking out for those working on holidays with warm meals in the lounges is a big plus that I hope the controllers (financial controllers, not ramp or ATC controllers you silly pilots) don't steal.
9. uh...starting to draw a blank...
10. next set of XJT guy to reply needs to continue this with #11...thanks
 
ATN_Pilot said:
They have some idiotic tradition about carrying around a bowling ball or some such nonsense. But I've found that their real tradition is raping anyone who they merge with.
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I believe there's a video about their ground school for Tranny guys on the YouTube.

(Edit: here; NSFW language.)

AFIS LINK ACK
 
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ATN_Pilot said:
They have some idiotic tradition about carrying around a bowling ball or some such nonsense. But I've found that their real tradition is raping anyone who they merge with.
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It's not rape if you say yes. And please don't use the gun/to/head analogy either when you had a method #1 that was turned down without polling or asking the pilot group about it. This is what happens when you guide the merger committee to just stall and force it into binding arbitration.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
As always, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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I didn't mean you as in you ATNPilot forcing a stall for binding arbitration, I meant you as in the merger committee leadership. Other than that, what I wrote was correct about methodology #1 not being sent to the pilot group. There is a memo which explains the AAI turning down the integration method proposed by SWA because it wasn't fair/equitable in AAI committee's opinion.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
And yet you still don't know what you're talking about. Quit while you're behind.
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Fellow Pilots,

Last week, your MEC made the difficult decision to turn down the Seniority Integration Agreements (SIA) that the Merger Committee reached with SWAPA and SWA management. While the MEC sincerely appreciated SWA management's efforts on the economic aspects of the agreement(why didn't you tell us that these economic aspects would be gone?), MEC members, based on pilot input received (what you heard from the 12 Angry Men? GMAFB!), believe firmly that the seniority list itself could not be considered “fair and equitable” to our members. That seniority list resulted in an average loss of relative seniority of 22% for AirTran pilots and over a 30% loss of relative seniority for some of our pilots. (what about the economic aspects? We were gonna get Delta Wide Body pay for Boeing's RJ) The MEC appreciates the hard work by all parties that lead to the development of conditions and restrictions (C&Rs) that lessened the effects of the seniority loss for some AirTran pilots, but the MEC ultimately concluded that the agreement could not and would not be ratified by our pilots.(You didn't give us ALL of the information! What did Gary Kelly tell the MEC?)

I have been in contact today with Bob Jordan to explain the MEC’s decision and express the above concerns. Although Southwest management is disappointed that the agreement was not ratified, they have also agreed that the Seniority Integration Process Agreement (SIPA) details the additional mediation and arbitration steps required. The Merger Committee continues their work this week in Washington, D.C. to prepare for mediation, which is scheduled to begin at the end of this month and continue through September. More information will be coming out shortly from the Merger Committee to describe the mediation process.(What is the point? The same committee already reached a negotiated deal. How will mediation change anything? Except now we have none of the economics!)

Many of you have reviewed Gary Kelly’s letter and/or listened to his phone message this afternoon. His plainly stated disappointment with the failure of the agreement is obvious, and some of his comments related to reviewing the status of the integration process (think about what that means! We are at risk of not being integrated!) are concerning. However, there were also many positive aspects of Mr. Kelly's message. First, he stated that "the integration process will continue, but at a much slower pace." He goes on to say that the company is "still on track for a single operating certificate,"(that doesn't mean we get integrated) early next year, which is an important hurdle to clear for any airline merger. And I believe most importantly, he was clear to say that "our jobs are secure."(Which jobs? AirTran jobs? GMAFB)

I want to stress that AirTran pilot leadership and all members of the MEC and its committees are still fully committed to a respectful and constructive integration process (why start now?) -- and one that provides the basis for continuing Southwest’s long record of success and positive culture.

Conversations with SWA management have included discussion of a meeting with them in the coming days. We hope to continue efforts to identify and work on any possible ideas that could eliminate the current logjam(we already had that, it was called the SIA). We hope that those discussions will continue to highlight the many positives to an efficient and fair integration rather than focus on steps that are not likely to promote our shared goals. Mr. Kelly importantly reminded everyone to “take a deep breath” and keep working hard. That is exactly what we intend to do.

We also urge you to please follow Gary's advice about not listening to rumor and innuendo. (that would be easier if ALPA could stick to the facts) You have my personal assurance that your union will communicate with you throughout this process and make sure that you have the most up-to-date, and more importantly, the most accurate information available. If you hear a rumor that doesn't match what you've heard from your union, please contact the MEC Office or a P2P member to get the real scoop.

In service,

Chairman
AirTran Master Executive Council
 
dustoff17 said:
The last company I worked for had a tradition of not keeping their promises, not allowing you to take vacation, and not promoting you because "you're to valuable in your present position".
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I may have moaned about this before, but the last company I worked for had a position called "acting captain". That's where you are PIC, sign the paperwork, stay in hotels 25 days a month, but are paid as an (underpaid already) F/O. I swear to you I am not making this up.

I've worked for some pretty hard-luck, hard-scrabble outfits in my aviation-appliance-operating career. But they (the others, that is) were all basically honorable. That job opened my eyes to the wide world of scum and villainy that is Charter.
 
Boris Badenov said:
I may have moaned about this before, but the last company I worked for had a position called "acting captain". That's where you are PIC, sign the paperwork, stay in hotels 25 days a month, but are paid as an (underpaid already) F/O. I swear to you I am not making this up.
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Hey @Boris Badenov, I know what your stating here but I've worked with a few "acting Captains" in my day.
Most times I sat there wishing they would stop "acting" and start performing!
 
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