Delta or United Job Fairs?

I didnt know they even attended job fairs. I figure they are probably overwhelmed with applicants.
 
That might be why I'm having a hard time finding one....I have a friend at United (captain) and was told by him that being a corporate guy a job fair would be the only or fastest way to an interview, face time with HR. I am pretty certain that he isn't too concerned with new hire procedures so whatever "rumors" he's hearing might be just that...rumors.
 
AUpilot said:
That might be why I'm having a hard time finding one....I have a friend at United (captain) and was told by him that being a corporate guy a job fair would be the only or fastest way to an interview, face time with HR. I am pretty certain that he isn't too concerned with new hire procedures so whatever "rumors" he's hearing might be just that...rumors.
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Why no internal rec from your UA friend? That sure cant hurt.
 
I do have one from him but with both of those companies using airlineapps.com who knows whether your app makes it through the filtering system...like maybe because I entered a big fat "0" under 121 time my app may be rejected. The internal recs are attached to your application so it really only helps on the back end....at least that's how I understand it. Thankfully I have a great job so the sense of urgency is lessened but considering the future I have to give it a shot!
 
At the FAPA next month in Chicago UAL is already booked/sold out. They were at OBAP in July/Aug. also. I am sorry I don't know of any more Job Fairs they are attending this year. They are on the invite list for the FAPA job fair in Miami next January though and on the invite list next year for FAPA in Vegas in March.

Ask @Derg re DAL.
 
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Personally, I'd focus on people you know who presently work there that can not only recommend you, but keep getting your name out.

If you go to a career fair, you're one of hundreds in a long line of people.

I ran a big one a few years ago with Delta. I'm not really sure if anyone actually benefitted from it, but do know there were people that benefitted from internal recommendations and "Hey chief pilot, my buds out in the hallway, do you have a moment?"
 
Is it true that United uses a point system for getting interviews? Was told a pilot gets X points for internal recs and X points for attending job fairs. Word is job fairs are worth more than having an rec.
 
Thanks for the input guys...anything at this point is helpful. I have 3 internal recs at Delta and one at United. Given the number of applicants it sounds like a good combination of both face-time and internal recs are imperative especially given the fact that all of my experience is on the Part 91 side of the fence. From what I hear my degree from Auburn is a very good thing as far as Delta is concerned
 
Bandit_Driver said:
I agree don't joke. A masters will be next for FO and PHD for PIC.
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And that's a bad thing...why?

Graduate degrees already receive preference at some companies. And, best of all, if you study something you're interested in - heaven forbid you end up furloughed - you also have an advanced degree competing with folks in the second field who may also only have an undergraduate degree. Or, void of a furlough, an advance degree could be used to advance your career internally within an Airline if it fits your personality and desire (re: management + pilot operational experience = more credible manager/potential leader).

Heck, snag a few advanced degrees. Granted, continued education isn't cheap or desired by some.

In the end, what are YOU (generic usage, and more meant towards the novices of this forum) doing to separate yourself from the pack? How do YOU standout?

The PhD for PIC, alright - I won't bite on that one...lol.
 
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I'm sorry but degrees up the wazoo do nothing to enhance your stick and rudder skills or judgement. I agree with a 4 year degree for most but the military pilots should get a pass on that.

I also don't agree with the exemption to lower ATP mins for graduates of select schools just because they lobbied for them. Experience at the controls in the system can't be taught in any book or classroom.

The industry can only demand the BS degree right now because they have enough supply still. If it ever gets more competitive for the HR department you will see those start getting waived to fill slots. A pHD to get a 20k year a job isn't palatable to most.
 
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I'm sorry but degrees up the wazoo do nothing to enhance your stick and rudder skills or judgement. I agree with a 4 year degree for most but the military pilots should get a pass on that.

I also don't agree with the exemption to lower ATP mins for graduates of select schools just because they lobbied for them. Experience at the controls in the system can't be taught in any book or classroom.

The industry can only demand the BS degree right now because they have enough supply still. If it ever gets more competitive for the HR department you will see those start getting waived to fill slots. A pHD to get a 20k year a job isn't palatable to most.
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You're right, with reference to S/R skills.

Advanced degrees, to me, are for personal development (greater knowledge and understanding of subjects), and serve to act as a career / life stability tool (re: protection for when your flying career pauses or ends).

I don't care if companies require or give preference to those holding them and I agree exemptions for kids with no prior professional experience and a slip of paper titled BS in Aviation Science or whatever are not going to serve to better the profession, they will fill the seats though.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
I'm sorry but degrees up the wazoo do nothing to enhance your stick and rudder skills or judgement. I agree with a 4 year degree for most but the military pilots should get a pass on that.
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With the exception of some WO helo pilots, I don't know that any branch has any fixed wing pilots that don't already have their degrees. It's kind of a requirement to be an officer in the first place. Now I'm sure somebody has 11 degrees of separation from a current military fixed wing driver, but by and large military pilots have their degrees.
 
There's a two-tier system at Delta, I "hear".

There's got to be one on file at AirlineApps and another personal email sent to a particular email address for the best results.

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And as more and more people get 4 year degrees, soon it will take a doctorate to fly an airliner :D
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Seems like I'm one of the few guys with "just" a bachelors degree at my airline.
 
bretthullrampage said:
Is it true that United uses a point system for getting interviews? Was told a pilot gets X points for internal recs and X points for attending job fairs. Word is job fairs are worth more than having an rec.
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The "X points for attending a job fair" sounds like marketing for the job fair industry and if they're floating that, they need to be exposed and ridiculed Kit Darby style on the double.
 
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