Delta's New 717

mikecweb said:
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@ATN_Pilot seen pitching in on his day off.
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AHAHHAHA
 
ATN_Pilot said:
The TWA pilots got screwed, no doubt. But theirs was a soft, gentle screwing, compared to our brutal raping. No one has gotten it as bad as us except for TranStar Airlines and Morris Air, which were both other seniority cram-downs from SWA. Don't believe their cutesy public image. These people are ruthless. Worse than any of the Lorenzo stooges I've dealt with over the years. And that's really saying something.
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I believe there are a ton of fTWA pilots that look at your "screwing," and laugh. But, once again, tell me how I'm not in the airlines and don't know anything...didn't read the rest of the thread, and probably won't. Best of luck ATN in the future. I'll buy you a beer in Vegas and you can tell me how your deal was worse than TWA's...I look forward to it! Should be educational. BTW, the TWA deal was where a finally drew the line on ever wanting to work for an airline. Not saying never, but I'm no spring chicken, so it's probably already a done deal for me.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
They've also been smart enough to keep their tickets off of the services like Expedia. Combine that with the marketing campaigns, and people are fooled without seeing the prices compared to the competition in one location. Smart business in that aspect. If only the rest of their operation wasn't a complete cluster.
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Ok, so one more as this popped up. Who started those sites? How is Sabre doing these days? When I interned at AA, it was a running joke how AA was a great computer company if it wasn't for those damned airplanes. (1993 intern).
 
Cptnchia said:
Something to be said for that drink. My grandfather drank two manhattans every night, the first one at exactly 1700. He lived til his late 90s and was as lucid as a 30 year old.
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Every man that is worth his salt should be able to not only make a proper "Old Fashioned", and drink it without question.
 
Cptnchia said:
Something to be said for that drink. My grandfather drank two manhattans every night, the first one at exactly 1700. He lived til his late 90s and was as lucid as a 30 year old.
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There are people who eat bacon (yummy) and eggs every morning, and smoke, and live happy lives for a long time. Then you have marathoners who die of a heart attack at an early age. Personally, I think there's more in the genome about how long we live than how we eat. Look at some of the rock stars from the 70's and 80's (and even 60's). How some of them are alive, I'll never understand.

So, if he wants a Manhattan, he shall have a Manhattan. I'll probably be drinking red wine or a beer. Not going to go overboard. Been there, done that...
 
Cptnchia said:
They also claim to be the lowest cost carrier around but the reality says different. Their ad campaigns have fooled an entire nation.
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Yes.

I heard well over a year ago that Southwest was in trouble for marketing that they had the lowest fares when they usually don't. They were told to either change the campaigns or lower their fares. Yet during the 49ers game today, I can't tell you how many Southwest commercials played advertising these amazing fares which the airline doesn't have.

I look up tickets for friends all the time. I haven't seen Southwest as the cheapest airline on any route pairing in over a year. Out of SFO, they usually match United and Virgin America, but are almost very lower and often times higher. Sometimes much higher. In fact, since this whole AirTran thing, AirTran is usually on par with Delta on SFO-LAX price wise, and SFO-MKE on Southwest has become more expensive then it was with AirTran flying it.

I don't hate Southwest, I've flown them many times and I wouldn't say I'm bias. But I see them for what they are, and the more this merger progresses, the less I trust them and their marketing. What you're really doing buying a ticket on Southwest is getting a random seat(which can be good or bad), checking a bag for free which doesn't get scanned(but but, it has a barcode), and putting yourself in a position where if your travel is interupted by fault of Southwest, they remain reculsive in the industry and cannot and will not rebook you on another carrier. They can't get you on SFO-LAX after a cancellation and United has an empty 757 in an hour? Sorry, you're going SFO-LAS-LAX in 3 hours. And you're paying just as much, if not more, than you would be on full service airlines. That's the truth.

It's a seat to your destination just as much as any other airline is, but what you don't know can hurt you.
 
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Stone Cold said:
I believe there are a ton of fTWA pilots that look at your "screwing," and laugh. But, once again, tell me how I'm not in the airlines and don't know anything...didn't read the rest of the thread, and probably won't. Best of luck ATN in the future. I'll buy you a beer in Vegas and you can tell me how your deal was worse than TWA's...I look forward to it! Should be educational. BTW, the TWA deal was where a finally drew the line on ever wanting to work for an airline. Not saying never, but I'm no spring chicken, so it's probably already a done deal for me.
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I had a newly recalled 'Merican guy on the jumpseat yesterday who spent his time riding out the TWA screwing at Airtran...then got screwed again. Thankfully he finally got his spot at American and seems pretty happy with it.
 
We've had several furloughed TWA guys return to AMR lately. None of them were planning on going back prior to the SWA merger. But with the large number of retirements at AMR, they'll be far better off there now.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
We've had several furloughed TWA guys return to AMR lately. None of them were planning on going back prior to the SWA merger. But with the large number of retirements at AMR, they'll be far better off there now.
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Which is weird. As if there's ever an FO4EVA airline, it's got to be 'Mericun.
 
Cptnchia said:
Someone probably forgot to pay the bill.
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Early reports that I'm hearing is that the hamster, that ran inside the wheel, suffered some type of fatal medical emergency!

Trying to get more info from my contacts!

Yep............
 
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