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Just take the danged checkride and give it your all. Show your examiner that you can teach and that you live and breathe safety. Understand the areas of special emphasis.
 
WheatonPilot68 said:
Scheduled my Checkride for Monday (8/12) at the DPA FZDO. Any last minute tips?
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Well, for starters, it is FSDO. That stands for Flight Standards District Office.

I assume you are going to take it with an inspector as opposed to a DPE.

Gosh, this close to the test it's hard to do a lot of the things I could suggest, but here is one. Read the PTS. Yes, I know that sounds silly, but I mean READ it. Look at the structure and format of it. Then read what it says, particularly the part before and after the tasks. Read how it says to do a transfer of the flight controls. Look at the references it lists. Read what it considers special emphasis items and think about those items. Look at the ratings table. Be familiar with what that table means. There is one in every PTS. There is a part that talks about practical test prerequisites. Go through that, ensure that you have them, and then be prepared to start the test by showing you know what the prerequisites are and proving that you have each one. The examiner will be impressed if you show him you know instead of him having to drag it out of you one item at a time (as is common with most applicants). Look at the Applicant's Practical Test Checklist. Go through it as a memory jogger to ensure you take what you need to the test. It wouldn't be the first time someone showed up without a hood. Keep the stuff you need to take in one place so that on Monday morning when you're full of check-ride jitters you don't walk off and leave the AIM you were reading Sunday evening back on your nightstand.

........... and of course ...... be sure to laugh at the examiner's jokes even when they aren't funny.
 
Sorry about the late write-up. I was there for 1.5 hours as he picked through my logbook. Turns out he did not like my ground training log. So he sent me away. The good thing is we never started the actual test so it's not a failure. The bad thing is, he looked at my ground log in the first 15 min and decided to hold me in there for the next hour and half to "audit" my logbook and then told me I can't take the test.
 
WheatonPilot68 said:
Sorry about the late write-up. I was there for 1.5 hours as he picked through my logbook. Turns out he did not like my ground training log.
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The only required ground training for a CFI certificate is the ground training for 61.185 and 61.187. There is no set amount.

61.51 unfortunately requires that the duration, location, and date of the training time must also be logged if required for a rating. 61.51 (a)(1) Training and aeronautical experience used to meet the requirements for a certificate, rating, or flight review of this part. But, it only says that it must be recorded in a manner acceptable to the Administrator - so any record of it is probably okay, even if not in a logbook.
I would think that including the location and duration of training in the 61.185 and 61.187 endorsements might be sufficient, but the letter of the regulations would say that you should be logging all ground instruction, location, and duration in a logbook. None of the instructors that I know actually do this.

 
Hefner said:
What areas of ground training were missing from your log?
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My instructor put everything we covered in two logs. He put the dates that we went over the material(I.e-7/3/13 thru 7/26/13 and 7/26/13 thru 8/11/13). The hours of training were also listed. Everything was there, it was just condensed into two logs instead of 14 separate ones.
 
WheatonPilot68 said:
My instructor put everything we covered in two logs. He put the dates that we went over the material(I.e-7/3/13 thru 7/26/13 and 7/26/13 thru 8/11/13). The hours of training were also listed. Everything was there, it was just condensed into two logs instead of 14 separate ones.
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What was the problem then? If he logged "ground training for 185/187, podunk airport restaurant, 0.2 hrs, 7/7/13, CFI exp 10/13" that would be enough to satisfy the regs.
 
WheatonPilot68 said:
My instructor put everything we covered in two logs. He put the dates that we went over the material(I.e-7/3/13 thru 7/26/13 and 7/26/13 thru 8/11/13). The hours of training were also listed. Everything was there, it was just condensed into two logs instead of 14 separate ones.
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Wow, so the examiner just wants you to go back with your instructor and separate them into individual lines?

drunkenbeagle said:
What was the problem then? If he logged "ground training for 185/187, podunk airport restaurant, 0.2 hrs, 7/7/13, CFI exp 10/13" that would be enough to satisfy the regs.
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Agreed, seems like the examiner wanted to play golf that day instead of fly.
 
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