Why no calls to interview? Is it my speeding tickets?

rocketman5150 said:
Like you, there have been any number of times when by rights I could have been pulled over. But whereas you and I have averaged one ticket every 6 or 7 years, our OP has averaged one a year. So the question begs, how many times has the OP been speeding and NOT gotten caught?
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You have a good point. But what if the OP has a clean pilot record? Are the airlines going to hire someone with a pilot deviation and a clean driving record over him?
 
3green said:
To the original Op:

10 tickets in 10 years is alot. Not 2 or 3 in 10 or 15 years, but a good solid average of 1 per year. Lets be real most of us speed to some extent (myself included), but to get that many means your doing something wrong... consistently. And you haven't learned your lesson. I'd say do yourself a favor and either apply at other airlines or try and build some distance between yourself and your last ticket.

In the end public perception is all that matters to the company. Any airline is going to ask itself if this guy/gal wrecks a plane and people die how is it going to look when the press gets a hold of his driving record? risk management doesn't look at the best case scenerio, they look at the worst. The public and press will correlate an obvious bad driving record with any accident that same pilot is involved in. Sucks but true.
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Exactly the points I was trying to make earlier.

Also would like to add that my review of driving records with regards to acceptance to flying positions is just a starting point.
I looked at the "hiring" like this: It is important to evaluate the position for which you might be hired. If you will be in a solid crew situation with you being SIC or FO, I might give the driviing record less weight. If I need you to operate as CA or single pilot, the driving record just gained in its' importance. In the latter situation, if you can't control yourself better, you won't control my aircraft..
 
dustoff17 said:
Exactly the points I was trying to make earlier.

Also would like to add that my review of driving records with regards to acceptance to flying positions is just a starting point.
I looked at the "hiring" like this: It is important to evaluate the position for which you might be hired. If you will be in a solid crew situation with you being SIC or FO, I might give the driviing record less weight. If I need you to operate as CA or single pilot, the driving record just gained in its' importance. In the latter situation, if you can't control yourself better, you won't control my aircraft..
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But he already does operate as PIC, single pilot, and has done so safely for years. Jay's not some 1500 hour SJS CFI wannabe airline pilot.
 
I don't know the OP and none of my statements/comments should be construed as a personal attack. My comments were directed from the standpoint of hiring for a new company position, not as an evaluation of his current position.

I'm not stating that he's not a good pilot, nor am I stating that he can't fly. I have stated, and I agree with 3green, that the company he wants to work for MIGHT not want to haul around his extra baggage. Whether he wants to admit it or not, his tickets are a reflection of his attitude and is something that would be hard to defend were a different company to hire him and then (heaven forbid) an accident occurs. The media and public seem to make up their own minds as to what constitutes an obvious liability. Ignoring (or disregarding) the rules or "limits" to the tune of one a year is blatant; it's not unlikely that an actuarial analyst has already crunched these numbers.

Also, it's highly possible (and quite likely) that his current employer is completely ignorant to his driving record......


Of course, the reason he's not getting an interview might not have anything to do with his tickets; it might be something much less sinister.
 
z987k said:
But he already does operate as PIC, single pilot, and has done so safely for years. Jay's not some 1500 hour SJS CFI wannabe airline pilot.
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That is true, but as someone in a position of responsibility I would argue he still shouldn't be getting so many tickets. Like it or not most in management will see that as "anti-authoritarian". As a recruiter or management it would give you pause, like it or not.

If you want to understand maybe why SKW isn't hiring him, see it from a management point of view NOT a pilots. Now maybe there is something else they don't like about his resume or him, but we don't know that since we are just basing this on his tickets. Good luck Op either way you'll find something. It just takes time and persistance. Luckily, the market is in your favor.
 
Derg said:
They really want more of the "David Souder" than they do "Clarence Thomas".

Well, for the most part.

So the powers-that-be can save the "Well, my uncle shot a hooker and bounced a check to the dopeman and is flying a sweet sweet A380" story.
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David Sounder?
 
JordanD said:
Only being able to go fast in a straight line = yawn.
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I could get my 71 ElCamino to get around a corner pretty good before I set it up to go fast as hell in a straight line. That was fun. But I've also seen more than a few old Chevy's Ford's and Mopar's whip it around a corner. Buying a car to drive fast around a corner is cute, almost neat. But building a 4000lb car whip that bought cars ass around a corner, then blow it away with hand built American muscle, way cooler!
 
z987k said:
But he already does operate as PIC, single pilot, and has done so safely for years. Jay's not some 1500 hour SJS CFI wannabe airline pilot.
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Very true. Flying at AMF for as along as he has without bending metal or being violated says way more about his ability to fly and follow company and FAA rules, more than what speeding tickets "might" imply.
Problem is is only amfers would see that.
 
eightballfreight said:
Very true. Flying at AMF for as along as he has without bending metal or being violated says way more about his ability to fly and follow company and FAA rules, more than what speeding tickets "might" imply.
Problem is is only amfers would see that.
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Wait, he flies single pilot for AMF? How does that work, I'm unfamiliar...

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z987k said:
But he already does operate as PIC, single pilot, and has done so safely for years. Jay's not some 1500 hour SJS CFI wannabe airline pilot.
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mshunter said:
I could get my 71 ElCamino to get around a corner pretty good before I set it up to go fast as hell in a straight line. That was fun. But I've also seen more than a few old Chevy's Ford's and Mopar's whip it around a corner. Buying a car to drive fast around a corner is cute, almost neat. But building a 4000lb car whip that bought cars ass around a corner, then blow it away with hand built American muscle, way cooler!
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Or you could get a 2800 pound pony car and go even faster! :)
 
eightballfreight said:
Very true. Flying at AMF for as along as he has without bending metal or being violated says way more about his ability to fly and follow company and FAA rules, more than what speeding tickets "might" imply.
Problem is is only amfers would see that.
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Indeed. In a crew environment it's possible to diffuse a crew member that isn't doing it right. I have a hard time believing anyone can fly single pilot(especially at Ameriflight, given their "if you mess up ANYTHING you're fired" safety culture) for a length of time with hazardous attitudes, and maintain a clean flying record. Whatever though right?
 
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