Nextant Hawker 400XP Range

Cessnaflyer

Cessnaflyer

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Are they really able to squeeze another 500 nm by changing the engines on these things and getting a 2000 mile range with 4 people?
 
Williams produce quality products that meet expectations (CJ line). I may be a bit bias, though.
 
The new engines make a huge difference. I have no doubt they are getting more than 500nm more than the straight Beechjet. However, I would put as much faith in the 2005nm range claim as I would in any range claim from any manufacturer.

Alex.
 
Hubbs said:
Regular Beech is a 1100ish NM airplane.
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Well then I guess they are advertising a 900 mile increase in range! Amazing what a little aerodynamic rework and some efficient engines can do. What about Beeches XPR upgrade? They say the Nextant engine choice is not suitable for the 400.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
Are they really able to squeeze another 500 nm by changing the engines on these things and getting a 2000 mile range with 4 people?
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2000 mile range is based on manufacturer book numbers, not real world ops. I can guarantee, like any airplane that the book numbers are going to be a couple hundred pounds less fuel then you would ever be comfortable landing with.

Is your boss entertaining the idea of a CJ2+, CJ3 or CJ4? I really think this series, especially the latter two would kill your mission.
 
MikeOH58 said:
2000 mile range is based on manufacturer book numbers, not real world ops. I can guarantee, like any airplane that the book numbers are going to be a couple hundred pounds less fuel then you would ever be comfortable landing with.

Is your boss entertaining the idea of a CJ2+, CJ3 or CJ4? I really think this series, especially the latter two would kill your mission.
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Haven't heard him talk about it. I'll have to ask him on the next flight again.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
Well then I guess they are advertising a 900 mile increase in range! Amazing what a little aerodynamic rework and some efficient engines can do. What about Beeches XPR upgrade? They say the Nextant engine choice is not suitable for the 400.
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No, the BE400xp is advertised as a 1600nm airplane, so +500 seems about right. Zero wind, I don't plan on getting any more than 1100 out of it.

It supposedly has a fuel capacity of 4900lbs, I assume 4700. I also plan on landing with 1000-1200 pounds. First hour is roughly 1500-1600, every subsequent hour is 1100ish. I plan on roughly 445ktas at 38,000. It works out pretty nicely at a 3hr15 airplane.

Landing with 800, and getting up to 430, cruising at .72 you may well see better range, but I would not be overly comfortable.

With full fuel, you have around 600-700lbs useful payload.

I think the XPr makes similar claims as the NXT.
 
Straight XP will do 1200-1300 reliably if you're not a nancy. ;)

But yeah, 1100 is a lot more comfortable.

Seats are good for maybe 900, though. I just did 1500 in a PC-12 and I feel about 1000% better than doing 1000 in a Bitchjet in half the time.
 
Color me a nancy then!

You flying a /47 or /45? I found the seats on the 45s to be significantly more comfortable.
 
Color me a nancy then!

You flying a /47 or /45? I found the seats on the 45s to be significantly more comfortable.
 
This is a lot more than a little aerodynamic rework... they have the benefit of CFD analysis, modern engines, and a whole host of other trickeries.
 
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