Landing Incident @ SFO

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If I was a teacher of Korean pilots, and I thought that Korean pilots were not good pilots, I probably wouldn't admit to teaching Korean pilots.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Cherokee_Troll, I haven't seen any crucifixion in either words or implication from Seggy. He's merely provided data. That data (if accurate) could indicate a whole host of possible reasons for the crash, and many of them have nothing to do with crucifying the crew.

As usual, you're just looking to stir up trouble.
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Thank you.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Cherokee_Troll, I haven't seen any crucifixion in either words or implication from Seggy. He's merely provided data. That data (if accurate) could indicate a whole host of possible reasons for the crash, and many of them have nothing to do with crucifying the crew.

As usual, you're just looking to stir up trouble.
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Thanks for your useless post that didn't contribute in any way.
 
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Good job by the controller and all the rest of the crews in the zone...

Speculation in here is amazing, I used to be like that, I was humbled too many times.

Part of me really needs to believe however that something went wrong with the aircraft, I really REALLY hope airlines aren't filling 777's with pilots who can't fly a visual approach...
 
From a 777 e-friend of many years:

The auto throttle clutch on the 777 has a very low friction level. If you rest your hand on the throttles the weight of the hand overrides them. It doesn't sound like much but you'd be surprised how many times in training and flight operations someone gets into airspeed/pitch problems due to this. The MD-11 auto throttle clutch was a better design.
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So who would like to start the list on potential causes for a 1320 fpm descent rate at 600' AGL followed by a 109 knot ground speed at 100' AGL?

< Disclaimer: I've seen enough Flight Aware data to not trust the numbers. Sometimes they're pretty accurate, other times not so much. >
 
juxtapilot said:
Interesting in that ATC recording someone yells "Go Around" several times.. It's kind of blocked by the cessna, though not at all his fault. I wonder if that was the UAL 885 crew watching this from the end of the runway...?
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If this happens after the accident, it's customary in busy towers to let everyone know a go-around is in progress. (Observed at Vegas and LAX.)
 
SteveC said:
So who would like to start the list on potential causes for a 1320 fpm descent rate at 600' AGL followed by a 109 knot ground speed at 100' AGL?

< Disclaimer: I've seen enough Flight Aware data to not trust the numbers. Sometimes they're pretty accurate, other times not so much. >
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1). Windshear
2). Loss of thrust that has the airplane just sink
 
SteveC said:
So who would like to start the list on potential causes for a 1320 fpm descent rate at 600' AGL followed by a 109 knot ground speed at 100' AGL?

< Disclaimer: I've seen enough Flight Aware data to not trust the numbers. Sometimes they're pretty accurate, other times not so much. >
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I've seen data on my own flights at times that flightaware was not accurate at all. It seems SteveC has too. So why use this when it isn't known if it's true?
 
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