OMGZ someone posted this on APC!

grkero said:
Wow, Alison sounds like a barrel of fun to talk to!

I can appreciate her honesty about her interest in contributing to this site. haha

She's doing her job, and doing it well in my book. Glad she stepped in and practiced smart communication's technique to hopefully improve clarity and reduce confusion.

Incorrect and misrepresented information as pure truth leads to many communication problems and a failure to manage expectations. For a government agency, she's doing exactly what any smart communication practitioner would be doing.
 
Having flown with a 65 year old CA, I think they should lower it to 60....

I saw two incredibly old NetJets pilots at KECP the other day........they literally looked older than the ground they were standing on. When I reach that I age I hope to be vegetating on a beach somewhere with a beer, not flying until I drop dead on the flight deck.
 
Nah, knowing pilots I can understand their frustration.

You probably have a few
Hundred 64 year 10 month old pilots blowing up their phones for a quick decision in age 67 so they can stay.

67 basically marries up with the social security withdrawal age and add a little sprinkle if hysteria about pilot shortages, the post got a lot of undue traction.

But then the Pandora's box opened when we let them, cough, I mean we enabled them to up the age. Should have fought them like cats n dogs but well, water under the bridge.
 
Nah, knowing pilots I can understand their frustration.

You probably have a few
Hundred 64 year 10 month old pilots blowing up their phones for a quick decision in age 67 so they can stay.

67 basically marries up with the social security withdrawal age and add a little sprinkle if hysteria about pilot shortages, the post got a lot of undue traction.

But then the Pandora's box opened when we let them, cough, I mean we enabled them to up the age. Should have fought them like cats n dogs but well, water under the bridge.

They just come over to my side of aviation. Scoop up the good jobs and make me clean, throw bags and run inside to pay for fuel and wait on PAX. They fly around in a personal airplane to one of their 3 houses while guys with families get forloughed.

I don't expect much from pilots anymore it is sad.
 
I saw two incredibly old NetJets pilots at KECP the other day........they literally looked older than the ground they were standing on. When I reach that I age I hope to be vegetating on a beach somewhere with a beer, not flying until I drop dead on the flight deck.

This is too common. I've sat through too many recurrents with 70ish NetJets pilots. All they ever want to talk about is "back at XXX airline we XXX blah, blah, blah". Followed up with "my cardiologist told me XXX, and blah, blah, blah...........yes he put me on blah blab blah"........ Sad when people don't know HOW to retire.
 
They just come over to my side of aviation. Scoop up the good jobs and make me clean, throw bags and run inside to pay for fuel and wait on PAX. They fly around in a personal airplane to one of their 3 houses while guys with families get forloughed.

I don't expect much from pilots anymore it is sad.

Not here. My company wants nothing to do with those old airline guys! Tried it before, and it never works out. They just aren't cut out for our type of work.
 
cezzna said:
... Sad when people don't know HOW to retire.

Problem is some cant afford to retire because of their investments and the market. Happened in the late 80's too. Even good planning can be an issue and now without pensions to possibly be worse.
 
Nah, knowing pilots I can understand their frustration.

You probably have a few
Hundred 64 year 10 month old pilots blowing up their phones for a quick decision in age 67 so they can stay.

67 basically marries up with the social security withdrawal age and add a little sprinkle if hysteria about pilot shortages, the post got a lot of undue traction.

But then the Pandora's box opened when we let them, cough, I mean we enabled them to up the age. Should have fought them like cats n dogs but well, water under the bridge.


Reminds me of the 4-stripers I used to see in the FE seat on DC-10/727 etc when I used to jumpseat back in the day.....
 
Reminds me of the 4-stripers I used to see in the FE seat on DC-10/727 etc when I used to jumpseat back in the day.....

*RING*

"Do it now!!! I only have a month left!"

"Do what sir?"

(rinse... repeat...)
 
*RING*

"Do it now!!! I only have a month left!"

"Do what sir?"

(rinse... repeat...)

If I remember right, they were able to fly until age 64 in the FE seat after retreading from the Capt seat. It was one of these guys who checked my ID against his book to see if I was "...one of them Eastern people". :)

Which I believe was different for PFEs, who could fly until much later; but I can't remember.
 
I think PFE's can fly until they break a hip. Most of the ROPES that came back to fly FE at Southernjets generally just flied until they hit the social security withdrawl age with much lower penalties than a draw at 60.
 
I think it's hilarious that airline pilots get their panties in a wad over this retirement age thing. Work until you can't...if you need to.
 
I think it's hilarious that airline pilots get their panties in a wad over this retirement age thing. Work until you can't...if you need to.

It's only hilarious when you're young.

You get a little older where you're within a decade or two of mandatory retirement, it can look all sorts of scary.
 
It's only hilarious when you're young.

You get a little older where you're within a decade or two of mandatory retirement, it can look all sorts of scary.

I don't follow. I thought every time the age was raised, it became a "get out of my seat" type of thing. You're saying that it's not safe to have a 65+ captain in the left seat?
 
I saw two incredibly old NetJets pilots at KECP the other day........they literally looked older than the ground they were standing on.

We played a prank on rampers at an FBO once by wheeling the pilot (who was well over 65) up to the airplane (a lear) in a wheelchair. He then made a show of struggling up the steps and into the left seat. the looks on their faces was priceless...
 
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