Pilot/Flight Attendant/Dispatcher/ATC Entrepreneurs: A word please!

WestIndian425

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My fellow JCers,

I was wondering...
  • Which of you have become entrepreneurs in addition to working in your respective field of aviation?
  • What motivated you to become an entrepreneur?
  • What type of business have you decided to pursue?
  • How has your entrepreneurial journey been thus far?
I ask these because I, too, am pursuing entrepreneurship (even to the point of getting a Master's degree at OSU). I'd love to hear your opinions and experiences.
Thanks! :)
 
Kudos to you!

I've done all sorts of odd things. About 4 years ago I started up a series of websites (like, 15-20 of these suckers) based around popular search engine keywords that I saw didn't have much market competition. I'd put up a site, either write content or outsource it, put up Google Adsense ads, then use search engine optimization techniques to drive traffic to them. In terms of ROI %, it was a very profitable venture due to the very low overhead (hosting and domain name purchases), but the SEO aspect took massive amounts of work for very little return. I simply didn't have time to work on all the sites, so I let them fall by the wayside. It was also the most tedious work in the world.

Now I trade, which I treat very much like a business. Also massive amounts of work for very little return (at first). Lots of hard lessons learned before you get your mind right. It fits my schedule nicely, however; I can log in once a day and spend 20-30 minutes managing trades. Pretty dull, but good trading is pretty dull.
 
I am not an entrepreneur but I do watch a podcast that talks to some of the biggest ones in the tech industry. Its an awesome podcast called Foundation. Kevin Rose hosts it, he started Digg back in the day and has done quite a bit of stuff in the industry. He has a ton of interviews with people from Twitter to Instagram to Youtube. Here is one about Elon Musk whom started Tesla, the car company.
 
I am not an entrepreneur but I do watch a podcast that talks to some of the biggest ones in the tech industry. Its an awesome podcast called Foundation. Kevin Rose hosts it, he started Digg back in the day and has done quite a bit of stuff in the industry. He has a ton of interviews with people from Twitter to Instagram to Youtube. Here is one about Elon Musk whom started Tesla, the car company.

I'm familiar with Tesla Motors! My good friend has their Model S. Beautiful car!

Kudos to you!

I've done all sorts of odd things. About 4 years ago I started up a series of websites (like, 15-20 of these suckers) based around popular search engine keywords that I saw didn't have much market competition. I'd put up a site, either write content or outsource it, put up Google Adsense ads, then use search engine optimization techniques to drive traffic to them. In terms of ROI %, it was a very profitable venture due to the very low overhead (hosting and domain name purchases), but the SEO aspect took massive amounts of work for very little return. I simply didn't have time to work on all the sites, so I let them fall by the wayside. It was also the most tedious work in the world.

Now I trade, which I treat very much like a business. Also massive amounts of work for very little return (at first). Lots of hard lessons learned before you get your mind right. It fits my schedule nicely, however; I can log in once a day and spend 20-30 minutes managing trades. Pretty dull, but good trading is pretty dull.
Nice!!! Appreciate the feedback!
 
I wouldn't call myself an entrepreneur by any means but I have an IT solutions and Dj/Multi Media Systems businesses. I love both of them and am happy about taking the step to plunge into both.
 
I'm thinking about buying a Van to transport people around on top of doing the commercial pilot thingy. Maybe not what you wanted to hear, but that is what suits my current situation/experience.
 
I'm thinking about buying a Van to transport people around on top of doing the commercial pilot thingy. Maybe not what you wanted to hear, but that is what suits my current situation/experience.
Actually it doesn't matter! You're still have an entrepreneurial mindset because you see an opportunity and you're taking advantage of it. Good for you, sir!
 
Several years ago, I had an idea to buy a cargo van and equip it with fitness equipment. I was a personal fitness trainer at the time and thought it would be cool to have a portable fitness company. I would take the "gym" to the client. That would solve a lot of common issues.
Never did it though.
 
Which of you have become entrepreneurs in addition to working in your respective field of aviation?

Late last summer I took over running the family property management business. My father had always kept it as a small business just big enough to provide the income he and my mom needed, plus savings, but I've taken it into high-growth mode as he starts to transition into semi-retirement.
What motivated you to become an entrepreneur?
A horrible seniority integration with Southwest pretty much decimated my career expectations in aviation, and I had no desire to start over at the bottom of another seniority list. I wasn't really thrilled with the idea of leaving flying and going into the real estate industry, but I've turned out to really enjoy the work so far.
What type of business have you decided to pursue?
Residential property management is our current focus, though we're starting to expand into sales again as the housing market starts to pick up in Atlanta. The business generates a great deal of free cash flow, and rather than taking that as wages or equity distributions for my own compensation, I use the cash flow to invest in equities. An idea I stole from Warren Buffett's use of massive free cash flow in the insurance business to fund investments in a diversified portfolio. I keep my compensation and my father's at the same flat rate as the company grows, and all of the excess money gets reinvested. As we grow, we'll be purchasing multi-family properties to increase cash flow even more.
How has your entrepreneurial journey been thus far?
Excellent! Since I started last summer, revenue has grown 113%. And while I had always thought that I didn't want the stress that would come with running my own business, it turns out that it's actually a lot less stress than working for someone else if you don't allow yourself to work to death. Just set a reasonable schedule (I work 10 hours a day, but you could do less), stick to it and don't let the business intrude on your personal time, and working for yourself is the best thing you'll ever do.

I still hold my seniority number for now, and I fly enough to stay current. I'm mostly bidding reserve, because reserves aren't flying much, but the downside to that is that you can get called out to fly at a pretty inconvenient time for the business. But thankfully my father is only semi-retired, so he keeps things running while I'm gone. I've also bid for a regular line and then dropped almost my entire schedule.

At some point, probably early next year, I'll be turning over my seniority number and leaving aviation. To be honest with you, as hesitant as I was to go this route at first, I'm now looking forward to it. It's been a great experience.
 
Late last summer I took over running the family property management business. My father had always kept it as a small business just big enough to provide the income he and my mom needed, plus savings, but I've taken it into high-growth mode as he starts to transition into semi-retirement.

A horrible seniority integration with Southwest pretty much decimated my career expectations in aviation, and I had no desire to start over at the bottom of another seniority list. I wasn't really thrilled with the idea of leaving flying and going into the real estate industry, but I've turned out to really enjoy the work so far.

Residential property management is our current focus, though we're starting to expand into sales again as the housing market starts to pick up in Atlanta. The business generates a great deal of free cash flow, and rather than taking that as wages or equity distributions for my own compensation, I use the cash flow to invest in equities. An idea I stole from Warren Buffett's use of massive free cash flow in the insurance business to fund investments in a diversified portfolio. I keep my compensation and my father's at the same flat rate as the company grows, and all of the excess money gets reinvested. As we grow, we'll be purchasing multi-family properties to increase cash flow even more.

Excellent! Since I started last summer, revenue has grown 113%. And while I had always thought that I didn't want the stress that would come with running my own business, it turns out that it's actually a lot less stress than working for someone else if you don't allow yourself to work to death. Just set a reasonable schedule (I work 10 hours a day, but you could do less), stick to it and don't let the business intrude on your personal time, and working for yourself is the best thing you'll ever do.

I still hold my seniority number for now, and I fly enough to stay current. I'm mostly bidding reserve, because reserves aren't flying much, but the downside to that is that you can get called out to fly at a pretty inconvenient time for the business. But thankfully my father is only semi-retired, so he keeps things running while I'm gone. I've also bid for a regular line and then dropped almost my entire schedule.

At some point, probably early next year, I'll be turning over my seniority number and leaving aviation. To be honest with you, as hesitant as I was to go this route at first, I'm now looking forward to it. It's been a great experience.

I applaud your courage, it's always tough to go all in on something new.
 
I have an odd-ball business where I solder up audio cables for military aircraft. Sales are just to the point where I can't keep up with them.
Nice!!! Perhaps you can hire people and expand!
Late last summer I took over running the family property management business. My father had always kept it as a small business just big enough to provide the income he and my mom needed, plus savings, but I've taken it into high-growth mode as he starts to transition into semi-retirement.
Wow! :ooh:
A horrible seniority integration with Southwest pretty much decimated my career expectations in aviation, and I had no desire to start over at the bottom of another seniority list. I wasn't really thrilled with the idea of leaving flying and going into the real estate industry, but I've turned out to really enjoy the work so far.
This is the reason most people diversify into becoming entrepreneurs, I believe! Actually, I'm still on the regional side (hadn't even made captain yet), but I can see how the uncertainty of the industry plus retirement not being as it used to be forcing many including myself to make this decision. Good for you, sir!
Residential property management is our current focus, though we're starting to expand into sales again as the housing market starts to pick up in Atlanta. The business generates a great deal of free cash flow, and rather than taking that as wages or equity distributions for my own compensation, I use the cash flow to invest in equities. An idea I stole from Warren Buffett's use of massive free cash flow in the insurance business to fund investments in a diversified portfolio. I keep my compensation and my father's at the same flat rate as the company grows, and all of the excess money gets reinvested. As we grow, we'll be purchasing multi-family properties to increase cash flow even more.
I like this approach!
Excellent! Since I started last summer, revenue has grown 113%. And while I had always thought that I didn't want the stress that would come with running my own business, it turns out that it's actually a lot less stress than working for someone else if you don't allow yourself to work to death. Just set a reasonable schedule (I work 10 hours a day, but you could do less), stick to it and don't let the business intrude on your personal time, and working for yourself is the best thing you'll ever do.
113%?!?! Oooh, we have to talk!!! It sounds like you made all the right moves!

I still hold my seniority number for now, and I fly enough to stay current. I'm mostly bidding reserve, because reserves aren't flying much, but the downside to that is that you can get called out to fly at a pretty inconvenient time for the business. But thankfully my father is only semi-retired, so he keeps things running while I'm gone. I've also bid for a regular line and then dropped almost my entire schedule.
Actually, I intend to do the same approach, even if I get picked up by a major.
At some point, probably early next year, I'll be turning over my seniority number and leaving aviation. To be honest with you, as hesitant as I was to go this route at first, I'm now looking forward to it. It's been a great experience.
Not sure if I'll do this entirely, but I completely understand. I really applaud you!
 
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