1500TT minimums ?

Boris Badenov said:
I'm a bit skeptical about the goodwill of the company on that score, but with your *ahem* charm, charisma, and JC contacts, I'd think the odds are pretty good that you could go fly a 99/Metro/1900 for Amflight or any other number of freight operators. Might put some hair on that girly chest, too. :D

The 1900 is a pussycat! Handles engine failures like a champ too!
 
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I am 100% for requiring more experience to get hired, hell, back in the day you couldn't even get your resume looked at with sub 2,000 hours! Granted, back in the day, RJs were DC-9s... .

Back in the day I entered the 121 world scared to death with only 2.500 hours. Back in the day we flew the glamorous Shorts.

Fly as much as you can, anywhere you can on top of your job. Network and life will get bette!
 
So really you support this 1500 hour deal because it will *maybe* (doubtful) improve the industry? Sure as hell isn't about safety. Is your ERJ different from mine? Because in all honesty flying right seat in a PC12 was more difficult.

Support it? It was my idea.
 
But I'm definitely open to discussion on what you feel I've ignored.

I'll wait for you to have an adult conversation, but from past experiences, I doubt that will come. Your snide underlying attempts at insults will have to suffice I guess....

You've pretty much made my case for me already, so I'll leave with what you asked for-
I was going to close with "Pull my finger," as attempts at engaging you with an intellectual conversation have obviously failed, and any rude noise I might make were you to actually pull said finger would equate to approximately the same intellectual level of any statement you might actually make.

Cheers.
 
Firebird2XC said:
You've pretty much made my case for me already, so I'll leave with what you asked for-
I was going to close with "Pull my finger," as attempts at engaging you with an intellectual conversation have obviously failed, and any rude noise I might make were you to actually pull said finger would equate to approximately the same intellectual level of any statement you might actually make.

Cheers.

I fail to see any attempt at intellectual conversation Charlie.... I asked a simple question and all you reply with is an attempt at my intelligence level....
 
Firebird2XC said:
I'd bow, but it widens the blast area. At least you're getting this. Check your inbox.

If you want to talk about PMs in the general topics, I will gladly bring the conversation over here, I am not hiding anything. Until then, lets keep things separate, mmkay?
 
Uh, OK.

You really are clueless.

Amazing.

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How the hell do you figure? It was my Remember 3407 Project that started the whole ball rolling. The ATP requirement, new rest rules, everything- starting the push for those was entirely my idea. But hey, the guy who gets wasted and jumps in the pool with his clothes on at a networking mixer thinks I'm clueless. Cheers to that.
 
How the hell do you figure? It was my Remember 3407 Project that started the whole ball rolling. The ATP requirement, new rest rules, everything- starting the push for those was entirely my idea. But hey, the guy who gets wasted and jumps in the pool with his clothes on at a networking mixer thinks I'm clueless. Cheers to that.

Say again, over?
 
It's been quite a long time since this has been passed... I'd be willing to bet there is no more than a dozen or so people that don't have 1500 hours when it becomes active.
My understanding is Eagle is going to have 6 pilots not meet the age requirement and it could be as high as 30+ not meet the time requirement. Because of the way Eagle runs bids we have a lot of FOs that have spend more time in training then on the line.
 
Firebird2XC said:
But hey, the guy who gets wasted and jumps in the pool with his clothes on at a networking mixer thinks I'm clueless. Cheers to that.

This is why we can't have nice things. Funny thing is, I bet people on here would walk that wet, drunken kid's resume in 10 times before thinking about doing the same for you.... You must have taken a lot of jhugz negative networking advice! (Sorry jhugz I still love you. Didn't mean to pull you in this poop show!)
 
Gonzo said:
My understanding is Eagle is going to have 6 pilots not meet the age requirement and it could be as high as 30+ not meet the time requirement. Because of the way Eagle runs bids we have a lot of FOs that have spend more time in training then on the line.

Wow, we only have 2 not of age, and I'm one! But then again, we only have 300 or so on the list.
 
Say again, over?

Yes, really. The initial push- which got carried forward by the Colgan 3407 families- started right here with me and another Eagle pilot. I was the one who threw down the gauntlet, put up a website and started stumping to get those rules changed. Everybody else carried the idea from there.
 
How the hell do you figure? It was my Remember 3407 Project that started the whole ball rolling. The ATP requirement, new rest rules, everything- starting the push for those was entirely my idea. But hey, the guy who gets wasted and jumps in the pool with his clothes on at a networking mixer thinks I'm clueless. Cheers to that.

Yes, really. The initial push- which got carried forward by the Colgan 3407 families- started right here with me and another Eagle pilot. I was the one who threw down the gauntlet, put up a website and started stumping to get those rules changed. Everybody else carried the idea from there.

Now wait a second Charlie. The 'ball was rolling' on the new rest rules LOOOONG before the accident. Also, the ATP Requirement was really born out of the ALPA Submission AND it was originally more encompassing than putting a solid hour requirement that was later mandated by Congress.

Take a look at page 176 of this report...

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2010/aar1001.pdf


Fatigue has been an issue that the NTSB has wanted better managed since the inception on their NTSB Most Wanted List in 1990. FRMS and science based rest rules have been around for years. Randy Babbitt, when he was ALPA President (early 1990s), tried to have the rest rules rewritten. He had some success, but not enough. When he was made head of the FAA, he wanted to finish what he started when he was ALPA President. The Colgan Accident gave him ammunition.

Here is a White Paper from 2008, concerning rest rules (among other items), which was before the Accident...

http://www.alpa.org/portals/alpa/pressroom/inthecockpit/FatigueRiskMSWP_6-2008.pdf


Now, take a look at 5.1 'Recommendations to the FAA' in the following link

http://dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/document.cfm?docID=322233&docketID=47271&mkey=73351

Points 3, 4, and 5 point directly at the ATP Requirement. I know you didn't work on the report and I know specifics for the '1500 hour rule' wasn't mandated or discussed by Congress until well after the ALPA Submission was published. But the real reason, I believe, is why Congress acted on the 1500 hour rule, is that the NTSB, a government agency, was pushing for a rule, ANY rule that dealt with low time pilots. Putting a hard number requirement is a lot easier than regulating all encompassing training programs. In the end though, a majority of that rule that was put in place came directly from the ALPA submission. A lot of Regional FOs are getting their SIC type made into a PIC type because of the recommendation on the ALPA Report, that went to the FAA, that went through an ARC, that went into law.

For those reading this thread, notice ALPA didn't say ANYTHING about a time requirement. They knew it would open up a whole can of worms as is being discussed in this thread.

Now, from a timing stand point. During the NTSB Public Hearing in May 2009, Fatigue and Pilot Qualifications were discussed in depth. Your website didn't come online until June of 2009 correct?

Finally, were you asked to be on any of the Aviation Rule Making Committees (ARCS) or asked to consult any of the ARCS about the above rules?

Bottom line is, I don't think it is fair to say that 'others carried your ideas'.
 
How the hell do you figure? It was my Remember 3407 Project that started the whole ball rolling. The ATP requirement, new rest rules, everything- starting the push for those was entirely my idea. But hey, the guy who gets wasted and jumps in the pool with his clothes on at a networking mixer thinks I'm clueless. Cheers to that.

Hahaha, your narcissism is entertaining.

I'm surprised you haven't been recruited by the US Government yet for your "expertise" and success in this venture.
 
My understanding is Eagle is going to have 6 pilots not meet the age requirement and it could be as high as 30+ not meet the time requirement. Because of the way Eagle runs bids we have a lot of FOs that have spend more time in training then on the line.

Shows how lacking in forward thinking the regionals are... And not able to get 1000 or so hours in 3 years? Yikes! I've got a pretty lazy life, and I fly about 400 a year...
 
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