Flight the movie

Does Denzel Washington, in the move Flight, remind you of Doug Taylor?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 58.5%

  • No

    Votes: 25 38.5%
  • Total voters
    65
Maximillian_Jenius said:
When I work on our chemical dependency unit, all of the patients there are alcoholics or drug abusers for a reasons and use, as a means of self medicating. Be it abuse (of all kinds) depression/ low feelings of self worth. Husband, girlfriend, wife left them. Or what I see a lot these days, people out of work and just depressed and turn to the bottle or heroin (et al.) just to cope. People just don't turn to abusing alcohol/drugs for no real rhyme or reason.
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Yup.

Alcohol is a drug. It has a chemical influence on the brain. Some people use it as a crutch to try to self-medicate their "bad" feelings away. It doesn't work. Especially in depression, alcohol is a depressant, when a chemical depressant is introduced to a depressed brain, the only thing that can logically happen is deeper depression. However, depressed people can't/don't see this and just keep drinking more, in the hopes that the numb will make the sad go away.
 
MQAAord said:
Yup.

Alcohol is a drug. It has a chemical influence on the brain. Some people use it as a crutch to try to self-medicate their "bad" feelings away. It doesn't work. Especially in depression, alcohol is a depressant, when a chemical depressant is introduced to a depressed brain, the only thing that can logically happen is deeper depression. However, depressed people can't/don't see this and just keep drinking more, in the hopes that the numb will make the sad go away.
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We've been getting a lot of alcoholics in that drink and as you said alcohol is a depressant. So then they need to take Coke/meth as an upper, and then later to chillax take heroin.

All kinds of f'd up!!!

It's a cycle, a horrible. Horrible, sick cycle.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
The doctor on the CD unit an addictionologist has said numerous time, that alcohol is the worst drug out there. Worst than cocaine, heroin et al. And worst of all... it's legal.
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Here's the funny thing with alcohol... Lots and lots of people are addicted that haven't gone off the cliff to where they're legally obligated to end up at your workplace. I think about guys I work with who literally can't enjoy an evening or a day off without having one...or a few...or getting hammered. And for some reason we as a culture laugh it off, and when someone does go a little too far and gets caught driving drunk or gets in a fight and has to go to some sort of outpatient program we laugh about it and say they made a little mistake and go drinking with them after they're all done. How many of your patients do you think were already addicted to alcohol to some degree before said life event, but just got pushed over the edge by something and wound up in the gutter because they turned to the only thing they still had in life, booze?
 
Roger Roger said:
Here's the funny thing with alcohol... Lots and lots of people are addicted that haven't gone off the cliff to where they're legally obligated to end up at your workplace. I think about guys I work with who literally can't enjoy an evening or a day off without having one...or a few...or getting hammered. And for some reason we as a culture laugh it off, and when someone does go a little too far and gets caught driving drunk or gets in a fight and has to go to some sort of outpatient program we laugh about it and say they made a little mistake and go drinking with them after they're all done. How many of your patients do you think were already addicted to alcohol to some degree before said life event, but just got pushed over the edge by something and wound up in the gutter because they turned to the only thing they still had in life, booze?
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I work at an inpatient hospital, so not too familiar with outpatient therapy. But these people are sick, we had to remove the hand sanitizer pumps because they were using it to get high/drunk. And as a tech I gotta sit there and keep a close watch on em when I work the CD unit, if I give them an alcohol wipe, and make sure that I get it back...

I don't know the stats of the percentages of patients we see, I'm just a tech the doctors would have that info. But I see a lot of patients are there for abuse, most often from an event caused at a young age. They turned to alcohol/drugs to self medicate, instead of dealing with their problem. The other percentage are psych patients. Patients with psych issues, like psychosis, schizophrenia, bipolar or an axis II diagnosis typically have poor coping skills and are very impulsive. So they often are engaged in risky behavior as a secondary condition of their disease.

Alcohol and drugs being the two big ones.

The economy is also a huge factor in our admissions lately. We have people there who were once making millions, and now have nothing and use alcohol/drugs to cope or are suicidal.

We even get airline flight crew employees that "check in" from time to time too.
 
MQAAord said:
Yup.

Alcohol is a drug. It has a chemical influence on the brain. Some people use it as a crutch to try to self-medicate their "bad" feelings away. It doesn't work. Especially in depression, alcohol is a depressant, when a chemical depressant is introduced to a depressed brain, the only thing that can logically happen is deeper depression. However, depressed people can't/don't see this and just keep drinking more, in the hopes that the numb will make the sad go away.
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I've never been able to grasp the drinking while depressed thing. If I'm feeling down, the last thing I want is a drink. I'm overall a very happy and friendly person, and I only drink to relax.

Granted, addiction is when logic leaves and you do whatever you have to do to get what you crave.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
Granted, addiction is when logic leaves and you do whatever you have to do to get what you crave.
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That's exactly what addiction is. It is a departure from reality, where the compulsive behavior of HAVING to have <insert whatever it is the person is addicted to> means they will do whatever it takes to get their 'fix'. The compulsive behavior outranks the person's family, friends, physical well-being and even their life itself.

Family & friends can beg and plead for the person to stop. But until the person themselves decides it's time to stop, it won't. Sometime it never does.
 
Roger Roger said:
I think about guys I work with who literally can't enjoy an evening or a day off without having one...or a few...or getting hammered. And for some reason we as a culture laugh it off
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Exactly. I know far too many people like this, and they get really offended if I even ask them why they feel the need to drink. But •, every social situation involves a bar, or getting shiftaced, or going to a party.

It's horrible. People use the excuse that it's a "social lubricant", but that seems very wrong to me.

and when someone does go a little too far and gets caught driving drunk or gets in a fight and has to go to some sort of outpatient program we laugh about it and say they made a little mistake and go drinking with them after they're all done.
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Indeed, except often with a DUI your life is basically ruined, your records are shot ... you may even end up with a felony, as the bar for that in some states is ridiculously low. (The bar for a "felony" is ridiculously low in general, considering its consequences!)

And once that happens, fack. You might as well just give up.

~Fox
 
ComplexHiAv8r said:
Next thing you will tell us that Bruce Willis is dead in the sixth sense.
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Finally got around to watching this. I dunno what everyone's problem is with the F/O. I mean he may suck as a pilot, but he says "sir" at the end of every sentence he directs towards the Captain, and that's the #1 qualification for any F/O, anywhere, anytime. I'd fly with him anytime.
 
I want to kick Denzel in the nuts for making this movie. Now, every time my boss' sister boards, it's 1000 questions about "all the maintenance has been done on this plane, right?"
 
Yeah, you sort of imagine it's responsible for more than one passenger invading one's personal space to get a breath sample, too. And if it was meant to be a Simulation, aside from all of the technical hilarity, my number one complaint is that that F/A was TOTALLY overmodelled.
 
I liked the movie even though there are a crap ton of irregularities. I could tell that the FO would have woke Denzel up had they not had an emergency. A good FO lets the Captain sleep!
 
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