CFII

nmineau

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So I have been flying with this guy for two months at a 121 carrier flying the 1900 can you sign him off for a CFII as we have done it all holding, missed, ... So he can take his II in a 172 when he already has his CFI and MEI?
Any opinions or thoughts on making it work?
 
So I have been flying with this guy for two months at a 121 carrier flying the 1900 can you sign him off for a CFII as we have done it all holding, missed, ... So he can take his II in a 172 when he already has his CFI and MEI?
Any opinions or thoughts on making it work?
I can't, I haven't flown with him at all
 
I don't think I completely understand the question: are you a CFII or are you relying on your ATP instructional authority? If the latter, no - your ATP instructional authority only extends to instruction in air commerce: an ATP with an airline program instructing another pilot with the airline program for airline program requirements.

Aside from that, I'm not aware of any rules that require a CFI-A/MEI to get a CFII in a twin as opposed to a single.
 
As there are exactly zero hours required for a signoff for any CFI ride, so long as he is a CFII, he can sign off on the ride.

It would not be a bad idea to spend an hour in a 172 with him though, as a 1900 isn't exactly the same thing....
 
As there are exactly zero hours required for a signoff for any CFI ride,
True, no specific hour requirement, but 61.187 says an applicant "must receive and log flight and ground training...", so some flight and ground training, perhaps only a minute amount, but some logged training is required in the areas of operation.
would not be a bad idea to spend an hour in a 172 with him though, as a 1900 isn't exactly the same thing....
Actually, my take is that it would also be required, ie, 61.187(c) "The flight training required may be accomplished in (1)An aircraft, or (2) a sim that is representative of the category and class of aircraft for the rating sought.
Not sure about the class part since the II isn't class specific, but since the checkride will be SE, I'm not sure.

Well, I'm not sure about the legal eagles sharp shootin the FAR language, but the FARs also require instruction in the fundamentals of instruction, and to me that includes all the areas in the Advisory Circular FAA-H-8083-9 Aviation Instructor's Handbook about the learning process.
Keeping it simple. Building Block. From simple to complex. etc.

If the endorsing instructor can be sure the cfii applicant is able to talk and fly a simple slow 172 in the "part 91school book" procedures, which may be totally different than the real world, especially the 121 world, then time in class may not be required, but that should be the recommending instructor's call.
 
True, no specific hour requirement, but 61.187 says an applicant "must receive and log flight and ground training...", so some flight and ground training, perhaps only a minute amount, but some logged training is required in the areas of operation.

I think anyone would agree category/class/sim is irrelevant for double-eye instruction. But calling anything operated part 121 instruction is arguably a stretch. Hence why a quick spin in a 172 isn't a bad idea.

The premise that anyone flying part 121 is not qualified to teach instrument flight would scare me on the surface though, so I would hope the signoff for the ride is essentially a formality.
 
One pilot is CFI-I MEI and other pilot is CFI MEI (just no II) can the II, would you if you were the II sign the other off and yes I think a quick spin for an approach or two would be good
 
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