For some reason it came across as "hey stupid, people die on the ground too" instead of what you meant. No idea why.
Just the limitations of the written word, versus being in person. No harm done.
For some reason it came across as "hey stupid, people die on the ground too" instead of what you meant. No idea why.
I have no idea. Just got a good internal at Delta. Delta requires that we are a "child of magenta" prior to getting an interview however.
General Requirements
FAA Requirements
- At least 23 years of age
- Graduate of a four-year degree program from a college or university accredited by a U.S Department of Education recognized accrediting organization
- Degrees obtained from a non-U.S. institution must be evaluated for equivalency to U.S. degrees by a member organization of the National Association of Credential Evaluation Services (NACES)
- Current passport or other travel documents enabling the bearer to freely exit and re-enter the U.S. (multiple reentry status) and be legally eligible to work in the U.S. (possess proper working documents)
Flight Time Requirements
- FAA commercial fixed-wing pilot license with an instrument rating
- Current FAA First Class Medical Certificate
- Meets all minimum FAA ATP licensing requirements
When evaluating the flight time of applicants meeting the basic qualifications, consideration will be given to, among other things, quality, quantity, recency, and verifiability of training; complexity of aircraft flown; types of flight operations; and hours flown as PIC in turbine powered aircraft. Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours.
- Minimum of 1,500 hours of total documented flight time
- Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time
Other Requirements
- FCC Radiotelephone Operator's Permit (RP)
- DOT required pre-employment drug test and a medical exam administered by Delta
- TSA required fingerprint based Criminal History Records Check and a Delta background check
- Applicants invited to interview must provide appropriate documentation of all flight hours and college transcripts
In the end a well rounded pilot (not fat!) would be better than a 0 to hero RJ guy right? That is one reason why I am entertaining the thought of going to a regional once I have my PIC time.


That's it?! Jeez... Desperate times call for desperate measures... I'm sure their competitive hours are higher than that though, right? Maybe......?
Uh, I've seen 2 do it and have 2 witnesses for myself, you can talk to them on the FB, AA group."I landed a 172 with a 30 knot crosswind!" Uh... sure you did
 30 kts sustained 90* to the only runway. KBBG.
 30 kts sustained 90* to the only runway. KBBG.Indeed. Most of them are probably captains right now at a regional or at a smaller national airline. Plow through them and see what happens.I don't think you'd find anyone arguing with that.
But even with the "0 to hero" RJ guys running around, there are still plenty of high-time well-rounded pilots with glass/jet/FMS time that we're competing with as well.
We know the listed mins are unrealistic. There are stupid numbers games HR does and factoring in glass experience and such can be a large part of getting an interview. Not to mention recent history shows they don't like cargo pilots (single pilot and crew).They actually listed EFIS as a requirement?
Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time

Delta, as the example above is based on, is a 121 Jet operation. I don't understand why people don't seem to understand that they will tend to look at people with 121 and/or jet time (or even better - both) and an internal first.
Imagine if you are HR, you have a stack of resumes submitted with an internal LOR. What qualifications would you tend to pick first? The ones doing the most similar or dissimilar to what your type of flying your airline does?
It's not 15-20 years ago when it was one or the other, rarely both. Even then the airline-types tended to fly under 135 (Doug being the connsumate example). Either keep diversifying your qualifications to meet the standards, or hope the minimum competitive requirements drop to your experience level.
To add additional color, realize that quite a number of 121 supplemental operations are furloughing. Many of these pilots also have internals, plus jet, plus 121 turbojet PIC, plus widebody and international 121 into the 10,000 hour range.
Uh, I've seen 2 do it and have 2 witnesses for myself, you can talk to them on the FB, AA group.30 kts sustained 90* to the only runway. KBBG.
In fact it was the same day that I ended up in Indy at 4 in the morning with you and Mr crazy driver.
 awe hell, I'm gonna tag him.
  awe hell, I'm gonna tag him. If not, my bad.
  If not, my bad.How about straight up turbojet time. Like Lear 20 series or Saberliner style?

I think that makes you far too manly for the job.
Don't let someone else talk you out of a job YOU want because they didn't have any success with it. I can't tell you how many people said they wouldn't hire civilian pilots, especially those with only 1900 experience.
Or "They hate Riddle grads"
Or whatever.


One thing is for certain. You've said it many many times. Who you know is everything. Who you know gets you around this silliness
I wouldn't say it's everything, as you still have to be able to perform. If you can't do that, then who you know won't matter.......of course, there are always exceptions.

We could also call him, Mr. I'm going to buzz a dash?Well, all 4 of us did 25ish on that one day in indy. Pretty ugly landings all around. I just remember crazy driver landed ahead of me and was freaking out on 122.22 about it. I had to tell him to shut up because he was making me nervous! haha "DUDE, I swear I almost tipped over and went in the grass and almost had a prop strike and I NEED A CIGARETTE!". You know how crazy driver exaggerates things...awe hell, I'm gonna tag him.
Jfk-Pilot (I think this is you, crazy driver)If not, my bad.
