Bad Day for the AWACS
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That was just too close...
Bumblebee
Commodore
trying to find a reference to this term...you would be surprised what pooped up on Google when I searched!
ComplexHiAv8r
Well-Known Member
Bumblebee said:
Space docking??? Oh sh_t
The -135 is out of Tinker
Still, that's not too bad......not good either. Look at any number of A-10s, and see how many dents are in the nose next to the USARRI receptacle. A miss is as good as a mile.
EDIT: Hell, even the Michael Yon article that was posted in the other thread, demonstrates what Im referring to above:
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/all-the-kings-horses-some-notes-from-a-weekend-of-thought.htm
Still, that's not too bad......not good either. Look at any number of A-10s, and see how many dents are in the nose next to the USARRI receptacle. A miss is as good as a mile.
EDIT: Hell, even the Michael Yon article that was posted in the other thread, demonstrates what Im referring to above:
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/all-the-kings-horses-some-notes-from-a-weekend-of-thought.htm
Best part is... From what I hear, AF heavy pilots don't start learning to tank until after they're aircraft commanders... Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Edit... Take back the comment... As someone stated on the YouTube comments, looks like the tanker is at fault a bit. Looks like the autopilot kicked off for some reason and the tanker pitched nose down. In fact, looks like the nose down trim was out of whack, leading to the AP failure.
Watch the horizon in the top left of the screen after the disconnect...
Edit... Take back the comment... As someone stated on the YouTube comments, looks like the tanker is at fault a bit. Looks like the autopilot kicked off for some reason and the tanker pitched nose down. In fact, looks like the nose down trim was out of whack, leading to the AP failure.
Watch the horizon in the top left of the screen after the disconnect...
///AMG
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Well to be fair, I didn't learn to start tanking until I was an aircraft commander either.....but that (the signing for the jet part) came on my 5th flight in the -18 so maybe a little different
Yeah, a little bit... In the E-6, student pilots at the rag have a syllabus flight or two with tanking involved. Then they continue training as 3P, 2P, and eventually AC.
As we understand the AF side, they go through training as a pilot, up to the AC level, then have to return to another AR school. So, most pilots doing AR are at least O-3 or O-4 pilots with a few hours under their belt.
rframe
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I saw those dents when I first read that article and was trying to figure out what they were from, thanks.
Pilotforhire587
Lycra Man
When you go back and watch the video you can see it was the 135 that was at fault but holy crap! That was CLOSE
BEEF SUPREME
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I was wondering what was up with the dents.
Hacker15e
Who am I? Where are my pants?
Looked to me like the tanker did pitch down right after the WACKER charged the boom there. In my experience when the '135 kicks off the autopilot they climb, not dive...but fish314 would know best. Might be different with an E-3 back there vs a fighter. That bow wake might have something to do with it.
I can't imagine how much negative G that AWACS pushed in trying to get away. Poor scope dopes in the back better have been strapped in!
To me, that looked like they were 20-30 feet from being two big fireballs.
I can't imagine how much negative G that AWACS pushed in trying to get away. Poor scope dopes in the back better have been strapped in!
To me, that looked like they were 20-30 feet from being two big fireballs.
You really need to ask Fish that. Hacker and I wouldn't have any idea, and truthfully really don't care, about what tanker TOADs do in their daily life.
