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Are we seriously having a penis-measuring contest over whose weather is worse?

Some pilot from north of the Arctic Circle is going to step in here and tell us all quit whining.
 
Maurus said:
Don't forget you are flying in one of the easiest locations to fly. Having the same weather nearly every day is nice. An ILS to mins in fog is not the same as an ILS to mins around convective activity and ice.

California seriously dilutes the experience a bit.
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I've flown all over the country. The weather isn't the issue out here, it's the local management and the company's (?) apparent lack of interest in competing for more UPS and DHL work. That and I think the overall pay scale isn't competitive compared to certain regionals. I think it's pretty well acknowledged that a not insignificant portion of the AMF pilot group has/is/wants to jump ship for Skywest.

All other 135 freight awesomeness aside, the QOL appears to be the Achilles heel right now. I know some guys love the company, and that's fantastic for them, but I think most people show up here and think WTF?
 
Cal Goat said:
I've flown all over the country. The weather isn't the issue out here, it's the local management and the company's (?) apparent lack of interest in competing for more UPS and DHL work. That and I think the overall pay scale isn't competitive compared to certain regionals. I think it's pretty well acknowledged that a not insignificant portion of the AMF pilot group has/is/wants to jump ship for Skywest.

All other 135 freight awesomeness aside, the QOL appears to be the Achilles heel right now. I know some guys love the company, and that's fantastic for them, but I think most people show up here and think WTF?
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The weather comment was just about the whole "freight improving flying skills". My point being that Cali isn't exactly where weather is known to be bad. With 99% of my flying being clear and smooth out there it is a wonder I hadn't lost a ton of my IFR skills.

As you know I am well versed in those problems listed.

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z987k said:
And in the water to. I'm pretty sure my chieftain had an outboard on it, otherwise I have no idea how it propelled itself most days.
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All I know for sure is that most of them are not water tight.

Maurus said:
The weather comment was just about the whole "freight improving flying skills". My point being that Cali isn't exactly where weather is known to be bad. With 99% of my flying being clear and smooth out there it is a wonder I hadn't lost a ton of my IFR skills.
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But you didn't lose those skills because you still have to fly a certain percentage of your day with instrument skills. My theory is that professional pilots are staying current on a basic level and keeping that skill just through everyday flying and legal training reqs. Freight doggin' may exercise that skill WAY more than other flying jobs, but it doesn't mean the pilot is necessarily better- just more focused in one area of professional flying.
 
z987k said:
Not really. It gets icy and low vis and rain and mountain related weather, but not convection, at least not that actually effects a flight. And really, until it starts pushing through the 20's it's a yawner anyways. Cute little baby cumulus.
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It can happen. My lighting strike wasn't in a convective system but they do exist in CA. Especially up north.
 
Cal Goat said:
All I know for sure is that most of them are not water tight.



But you didn't lose those skills because you still have to fly a certain percentage of your day with instrument skills. My theory is that professional pilots are staying current on a basic level and keeping that skill just through everyday flying and legal training reqs. Freight doggin' may exercise that skill WAY more than other flying jobs, but it doesn't mean the pilot is necessarily better- just more focused in one area of professional flying.
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Exactly. There is a reason why you climb above, or go around, or divert, or hold due to bad weather situations in other ops. Sure, flying through all this crap day in and day out will keep your skills up and make you a hardened freight pilot. But it isn't standard procedure to operate that way in pax ops for obvious reasons.
 
Maurus said:
The weather comment was just about the whole "freight improving flying skills". My point being that Cali isn't exactly where weather is known to be bad. With 99% of my flying being clear and smooth out there it is a wonder I hadn't lost a ton of my IFR skills.

As you know I am well versed in those problems listed.

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I have flown in several states but the only time I have been struck by lightning was in CA. Weather can be nasty anywhere.
 
Inverted said:
Exactly. There is a reason why you climb above, or go around, or divert, or hold due to bad weather situations in other ops. Sure, flying through all this crap day in and day out will keep your skills up and make you a hardened freight pilot. But it isn't standard procedure to operate that way in pax ops for obvious reasons.
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It is the non-standard times I would like the be prepared for.

Funny how this ended up being a e-peen contest.
 
I dont remember what the insurance mins are, but they don't really go by mins for the Metro. Depends on how desperate they are to get somebody in the bid.
 
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