Chotor astay!
More bad news from the Middle East Airlines
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Chotor astay!
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
But we're from the same side of the Persian Gulf. Not that other side.....
أيا كان، سواء كنت من الخارقة واحد فقط من يمكنك قطعتين من حماقة حتى قراءة هذا.
EDIT: Man is that a bad translation...
Trip7
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jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
是的，我也说中国话。
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
No, geek!
Trip7
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Trying to expand their US partnerships. They already have an agreement with Alaska
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typhoonpilot
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Hmmm, Emirates received $10 million from the Dubai government to start the airline up in the mid 80s. That is the only money they have ever received and it has been paid back fifty fold. The airline pays a dividend to the government, two years ago it was over $100 million. How exactly does that make them subsidized?
To your original post in the thread, it is interesting this tie-up with Qantas. Qantas management have failed miserably over the last decade. They have ruined the brand image with their LCC start-ups JetStar, JetStar Asia, and JetStar International. That has led to a stagnation/decay of the main Qantas airline fleet. Their pilots have been bailing out for years now. Many coming to Emirates.
Life at Emirates is okay and the money can be very good. The comparison of wages is not really accurate. If you're looking at a DAL 14 year F.O. wage versus an Emirates F.O. wage the key is longevity. At 14 years in Emirates one would be a very senior captain making significantly more than a DAL 14 year F.O. That said DALs new rates are very nice and I am actually encouraging younger guys at Emirates to think about moving back to the USA to have a "career" at home versus sticking it out in the desert for the long term.
Emirates and other expat jobs are really only 10-15 year stints for the majority of people. It is very difficult to stay longer than that. The lure of the homeland becomes very strong over time, especially when things like kids hitting high school age; elderly parents that need care, etc are factored in.
The great thing about that 10-15 year time frame however is that one can do everything they want in terms of career goals within that time frame. Widebody captain, instructor, management ( for those inclined ), CRM instructor, recruitment pilot, technical pilot, Quality assurance auditor, IOSA auditor, etc. It's all available for those who put forth the effort. Those opportunities are just not there for a major airline pilots with less than 20-30 years seniority.
I really wouldn't worry too much about Cabotage in the USA. Emirates specialty in the North American market is flying people to the sub-Continent. No U.S. carrier can compete with that because they don't serve Hyderabad, Bangalore, Chennai, Trivandrum, Calicut, Calcutta, Cochin, Dhaka, Colombo, Lahore, Karachi, Islamabad, Peshawar, or Ahmadebad among other destinations.
The other remarkable growth areas for the MIddle East airlines is the burgeoning markets from Asia to Africa and Europe to Africa. That market is completely out of range for the U.S. carriers. Emirates is expanding rapidly in Africa with Luanda, Harare, Lusaka, Dakar, Abidjan, and Durban added within that last few years. Algiers was just announced yesterday. They also serve a growing market in South America with connections onward to Asia giving passengers a choice away from that pesky transit Visa system the U.S. has.
WestIndian425
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Well that certainly clears things up. Thanks.