Interesting short field landing

will_fly_for_bandwith said:
The field looked pretty long to me..... wonder how they would do with the standard FAA 50' tree at the threshold.
....not all that impressed.
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Ever had to ACTUALLY land on a short field? If the tree isn't there, that's how you do it. You come in like there's a tree there when there's not(because the field is short and a tree would make it impossible) and you're not stopping by the end.
 
Yes many many times. What I dont like in this is they look (to me..) to be low about a 1/8 mile over the water and drag it in with power. A powerd steep approach with a power off landing provides for more control and visability over the front. We dont teach short field landings to be drop the aircraft down to 20' and then fly level. Looks great untill about 1:20.
But nice airspeed management with a solid touch down.
Just my thoughts.
 
will_fly_for_bandwith said:
Yes many many times. What I dont like in this is they look (to me..) to be low about a 1/8 mile over the water and drag it in with power. A powerd steep approach with a power off landing provides for more control and visability over the front. We dont teach short field landings to be drop the aircraft down to 20' and then fly level. Looks great untill about 1:20.
But nice airspeed management with a solid touch down.
Just my thoughts.
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In this video they could have crossed the fence at 100' and 140kts and it really wouldn't have mattered. And I know short fields are not taught to drag it in low and slow, but you'll land a lot shorter doing it if you really need to.
 
Have a look at Pilots landing on gravel bars in Alaska.

The saying: "Those who can do. Those who can't, teach."

There are many, many things that CFI's teach in order to satisfy the PTS that have little to do with practical real world application.
Some folks Short Field technique is an example.
 
Regarding PTS, I've always found it interesting that they have separate techniques for short field and soft field landings.

I mean, in a world where all short fields are pavement and all soft fields are a mile long that makes perfect sense, but I've yet to find that world. I certainly ain't up in AK....
 
TallFlyer said:
Regarding PTS, I've always found it interesting that they have separate techniques for short field and soft field landings.

I mean, in a world where all short fields are pavement and all soft fields are a mile long that makes perfect sense, but I've yet to find that world. I certainly ain't up in AK....
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I've never taken a checkride that both of those were not satisfied with the same landing though. Even in twins. DE - show me a short and soft.
 
He did a nice job in the first video, the second no so much....

I dont know why there's always such a huge debate over short field stuff... If there are obstacles, drop it in the best way for your airplane. If no obstacles, drag it in with power and put it where you want it. Problem solved.

Takeoffs are the same deal. If you're clearing an obstacle, minimum ground roll with max performance climb. No obstacle, you just need enough "runway" to get airborne. It ain't rocket surgury.....
 
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